LA street gangs targeting residents in wealthy areas, LAPD urges residents to be on guard

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  1. Le Chef

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    Sure I do, dear.

    In the 1920s and '30s, hundreds of American leftists moved to what was then the Soviet Union, motivated by a desire to build socialism. Alexander Gelver of Oshkosh, Wis., was taken there by his parents. But when the 24-year-old wanted to return to the U.S., he was stopped by Soviet police outside the U.S. Embassy in Moscow. He was arrested and disappeared. Only in the 1990s did his fate become clear: He was executed in 1938, one of Stalin's many victims.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/parall...erican-defectors-to-russia-an-unhappy-history


    But if you haven't been persuaded by the consensus of serious historians across the political spectrum, no photos would convince you anyway.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    Do you have such a document? ...However, where can he get it?
    By the way, the international court rejected the claim of the Polish side against Russia on the issue of Katyn. The Poles have no evidence of their version, those alleged "evidence" that the Poles showed in court, the court recognized as false.
    This is information for your intellectual development.
    Show real evidence. For example, the United States is the only country in the world that has dropped atomic bombs on peaceful cities. A lot of photo and video materials can serve as proof of this crime against humanity. Do you have such evidence of Comrade Stalin's "bloodyness"?
     
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    This is not serious.
    1. You provide a link to the media. But even American presidents call the Western media fake news.
    I'm not interested in anyone's opinion.
    You yourself understand that someone's opinion cannot be evidence. If someone expresses the opinion that you were involved in the 911 attack, can this opinion be considered evidence of your guilt? Obviously not.
    2. If a person was arrested in the country in 1938, can you name the reason for his arrest? Was he a spy? Was he a saboteur? I want to remind you that 1938 is the year of the actual beginning of the Second World War - the Munich Agreement and the division of Czechoslovakia.
    Give me the article on which this character was detained. All the ridiculous stories that he just wanted to come back are complete nonsense. Ask any spy why he is leaving the country - and he will answer you, "no problem, I just want to return."
    Therefore, your example can be safely called a myth and propaganda.
    But I can tell you what is the proof of the number of prisoners and executed in the USSR.
    This is a report for Khrushchev from the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR, the Prosecutor General of the USSR, the Minister of Justice of the USSR on the number of prisoners in the USSR.
    This document has been declassified and a screenshot of this document is available on the Internet.
    If you look at this document, you will see that everything is completely different from what the Western media write.
    And what is surprising is that this document is freely available, but for some reason not a single Western media publishes it. Maybe because the document will destroy the propaganda lie against Comrade Stalin?

    Your "serious historians" have not provided any real evidence.
    On what basis was the arrest made? Where is the judgment? Where is the prisoner's personal file?...etc. What they write is nonsense.
    I can come up with of thousands of stories about innocent people convicted in the US. But you won't take my fantasies as evidence. Is not it?
     
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    I don't consider the stories that came out of the USSR to be fantasies. The defectors were not lunatics, though I'm sure some of them suffered a few Sulphur injections in Stalin's psychiatric hospitals.

    I don't disagree that people have been wrongfully convicted in the USA. So what?
     
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    Under Stalin's rulership horrible crimes were committed on the German girls and women!!
    He is responsible for that!
     
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    Too bad for the next generation and younger generation, right?

    What future will you be leaving them.
    I guess you don't care, or maybe you don't have any children.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    No, that is you.
     
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    You are so full of **** it is bubbling out your ears. Yet again: there is NOTHING you will accept. The Russians have ADMITTED that Katyn was done by the NKVD. It occurred more than a year BEFORE anyone but the Soviets were at the site.

    You will ignore the evidence in front of your eyes. Like this:

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    That is Beria's memo to Stalin, for the massacre.

    No atomic bombs were dropped on "peaceful cities". The second should have been dropped on Moscow.
     
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    It's not that I don't care. It's that I can't do anything about it.
     
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    What?
    Local politicians are a reflection of local population. LA residents want things this way, otherwise they’d elect someone who’d change the way the city and state handle the crime. If local residents want to eliminate police or legalize theft then who are we to stop them? This is still a federation, every state has a wide degree of autonomy, and those states grant a great degree of autonomy to its cities - so who is at fault?
     
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    In the US, people, US citizens, were kept in concentration camps, but you don't believe in innocent convicts people in the US? You are an amazing person.
    By the way, their citizens were kept in concentration camps only in the USA and in Nazi Germany.
    Even now, the US has kept thousands of people in Guantanamo for many years without charge.
     
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    And immediately for you have a question - can you show evidence?
     
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    I live in a semi-rural area, about 45 miles from a medium sized city. Heavily Republican. Crime is indeed spreading. This area, let's call it a 10 mile radius, has always had what I call 'idiot crimes' DUI, petty theft, the occasional car theft. That is definitely escalating to armed robbery, property theft, major theft, violence with and without gun involvement.

    I miss the 'good ole' days' of a bar brawl on Saturday nights and a screaming fight between football moms....
     
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    I just told you the exact opposite of that. I must be talking to a robot.
     
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    You realize that you are spreading fake news?
    1. Comrade Stalin has a different signature.
    2. Comrade Stalin does not deal with court cases. This is not his level, just as the president of any country does not deal with petty issues.
    3. Your note has a colored coat of arms of the USSR. But even the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty does not have a color image.
    Therefore, do not write nonsense. Go study history.
     
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    In that case, I apologize to you. English is not my native language. I can easily confuse the meaning of what is written. If I was wrong, again, I'm sorry.
     
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    Sorry to hear it. The nearest city here is run by democrats. No problems here at all. We have lived out here for 35 years. Sorry to hear you are getting more crime.
     
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    It may have something to do with the influx of people in this area. We get 'half-backers' from Florida, and escapees from the NY/NJ/CT area that don't want to pay the taxes up there.

    While it's creating growth in housing and the real estate tax base, it also brings with it the undesirable element of people who lack respect for other people.
     
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    And not a single shred of truth in this post.
     
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    Jazz said:
    Under Stalin's rulership horrible crimes were committed on the German girls and women!!
    He is responsible for that!
    Yes, the parents of a young girl told me, how their daughter was taken away forcefully and never came back ever. The mother herself was raped repeatedly. I met them in 1954 in the West-Zone. Broken people.
    They did not flee in 1945. They thought, the Russians won't be that bad. Ha, big mistake!
     
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    Correction. I read the book on this. 1.5 Milliion Americans moved to Russia due to Russia's 0% unemployment including professional baseball players. Once Stalin became Paranoid, people started disappearing at night ending up in the Gulag's. I have read multiple books on that as well. It got so bad leading up to World War II in that USA Employees at the US Embassy started disappearing in the night going to the Gulags. That should have been enough to start a war, but USA was deciding who to side with aka Hitler or Stalin. Anyways, not many Americans ever made it home and nobody knows of those 1.5 Million souls, how many survived the Gulags. Read Anne Applebaums Gulag: A History

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0012SCJ9Y/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
     
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    Not according to poster Destroyer of Illusions.

    Check him out.
     
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    Pretty sure he's a paid shill.
     
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