If you really want to put America First

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  1. ShadowX

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    Care to compare how many liberal/conservative protests have turned violent? I bet you don’t.

    Y’all literally have ONE example lol
     
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    ooopsy
     
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    Trump is an American Nationalist :applause:

    and advised the same to other nations' leaders & receiving criticism


    Biden's economic boycotts
    restricts trade of food stuffs.

    Stupid is as Stupid does
    Stupid on Food producers
    Stupid on Food consumers. (common folk)


    ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE 5 YEARS AGO?



    Moi
    :oldman:


    Don't Further :flagcanada:ize
    :flagus:
     
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    Not nearly good enough. You need to end incumbency and re-election in order to reduce corruption.
     
  5. GrayMan

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    The biggest threat to America are the ones currently in office destroying our economy and the ones before them ballooning the debt. The other big threat are the Anti family radicals who hate America. The only thing worse than those people are the weak Republicans who think getting along and being nice is more important than fighting to save it. Lay down and die on your own thank you very much, but I will go out screaming into the night to make sure America succeeds.
     
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    Two 4 year terms maximum. Just like the President.

    No life time bennies, and they pay for the insurance they receive, just like the common man. No voting themselves raises, the get the same percent COI that Social Security gets, no more.
     
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    Just because he served, doesn't mean he wanted to.

    If George was your friend and he confided in you, you were not a very good friend in the listening department. He served because he was convinced to serve. Not because he wanted to serve. He just wanted a quiet farm life.

    LINK: George Washington: Facts, Revolution & Presidency - HISTORY
     
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    It appears you need more time to think. I'd suggest you do so.
     
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    No, we need to start voting in better people. If someone proves ineffective at their job then get rid of them. That is what we're SUPPOSED to do. The fault lies with us, the voters. Not the system.
     
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    When you buy the line, you lose your credibility and influence- and apparently your judgement. God knows (and I'm not religious) that the left and the liberals have been working hard to destroy your ability to think independently for years now, with far too much success.

    Nobody's perfect, but some- and without question the left and it's people are a whole lot less perfect than others.
    They haven't been making mistakes; they have intentionally been destroying our society. Not just with incompetence or ignorance, but with willful intent.

    I am in favor of working together- but not with people who's perception of that is to ride roughshod over those who disagree; there is no such thing possible with such people.
    When they can't see their own faces behind the bulk of the problems they have created, they are lying to themselves as well as to the rest of us, and there is little anyone can do to change that until those doing it want to change it.

    Change is coming in November. The people have had enough and they are less gullible than the left thinks. The left will lose control of both house and senate by a wide margin, and hopefully the new congress will make it's first objective cleaning up the damages and restoring order to the congress as well as the nation. It's plain and simple- they have the wrong objectives, the wrong values, and they have botched the job in everything they have tried to do. That's not like the Trump-hate person crap, that simply wanting the nation to be a good place for everyone- and the left objects to anyone who doesn't want it there way. No compromise possible, because you have no right to crush the rights of other people.

    If and when the left decides to help instead of destroying and obstructing and manufacturing chaos, I'm sure they would be welcome.
     
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    There's nothing objective there... What are the 'norms of civility'?

    Are you (and/or the article) suggesting the biggest danger to America is people talking in an uncivil manner?

    ...because if talking nice is more important to folks than accelerating inflation or looming nuclear war, then THAT is a much bigger problem imo.
     
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    I agree but how are you going to fix the voters?
     
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    I have held these opinions for more than a half century.
     
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    What I had in mind was a six year term so that we could rotate 1/3 of the congress each two years. It would insure that the most of the members would be experienced. A learning curve for everyone isn't efficient. I don't care what we pay them. It is a gnat's eye in the budget. I have this crazy concept of public service to replace public robbery.
     
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    Fix the education system would be a good start.
     
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    Academic subjects do not teach common sense and a lack of greed. Political ideology is one of the problems the educational system suffers currently. It is strange for an irreligious person like me to say but I would try to get more people involved in religion or find another social network that replaces it or complements it effectively. Religion is good for morality and hence good for society. Most likely it goes back to parenting.
     
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    Those were the days? Right, when the left had their excuse to murder Americans and cops while destroying billions in American businesses all in the name of Trump.
     
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    You can still stagger on 4 year terms. 6 year leaves too much time in between voting for shenanigans.

    I do care what we pay them. Serving the voters is not supposed to be a 'for profit' venture, where the elected officials have better benefits at the taxpayer expense then what those who elected them have available to them.
     
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    If you want successful people to inhabit congress you will fail if you make them struggle to make a good living. Such a struggle gets in the way of performance. If you pay high school dropout wages, you will get school dropout candidates, assuming they can run a campaign.
     
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    Why go to the extreme? There are many in-betweens.

    The average American income in 2019 was just under $70,000. A Congressweasel makes $174,000 as base pay, PLUS paid benefits. For +/- 150 days of work. The average worker is 250 days of work. Congressweasels can also hold other (non-government) jobs.

    Yes, sometimes you get what you pay for. But at what point is it too much?
     
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    Eisenhower was President when I born and I believe the root of our issue is our two-tiered system of justice. We look for any excuse not to punish our “elite” and they’ve become more brazen with each passing year.

    Mix in the notion that money is end all be all and you’ve got a toxic mix. We’re lost, staggering, stumbling. and pointing fingers.

    Either we’re a nation of laws or we are not. If there was ever a time to drop the hammer it’s now. It’s time to put an end to the BS.
     
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    At the front of that pack ... Donald Judas tRump!
     
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    Interesting string of sentences. Exactly what "BS" are you talking about; what's the point of those sentences?
     
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    Single term would be counter productive, by the time they find the bathroom their term would be over. But term limits for all three branches is WAY past due. "Knowing your way around" and "knowing your way around accountability" are not the same thing,
     
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    Who is going to "put the hammer down" and apply the law equally?

    “[T]he running existential contradictions of D.C., a place where “authenticity and fantasy are close companions”, as the Washington Post’s Henry Allen once wrote. It misses that the city, far from being hopelessly divided, is in fact hopelessly interconnected. It misses the degree to which New Media has democratized the political conversation while accentuating Washington's insular, myopic, and self loving tendencies. It misses, most of all, a full examination of how Washington may not serve the country well but has, in fact, worked splendidly for Washington itself– A city of beautifully busy people constantly writing the story of their own lives.”
    THIS TOWN, Mark Leibovich, Penguin Books, 2013, p. 10.
     
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