Over 63 million abortions have occurred in the US since Roe v. Wade decision in 1973

The vast majority of miscarriages are very early into the pregnancy and involved genetic defects where there was no way that child would have been able to survive.

Ironically some miscarriages are caused by previous abortions, because due to the scar tissue (from all the uterus scraping) the new fetus's placenta can't adhere very well.

 

So we would have over 400 million people without abortion? Sounds like overpopulation.

 

The left has been arguing we need illegals because our population is shrinking.

Dont tell me you’re one of the people who would sacrifice your own family for the cause.

And here we go, but that’s different,

 

Our population isn't and never was shrinking. This isn't a problem.

 

Tell it to your liberal pals who are using it as a reason to import illegals. We’ve been told many, many, many times by the left who are telling us our population is shrinking. It seems when the left needs our population to shrink it does, and here you are, When the left says the planets is overpopulated it is.

show me, nail down, give me a solid position of the left that will never change and which the population f the planet can support. Ready, set go.
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But these would not be smiling little Gerber babies


Because the majority of women seeking abortion are at or under the poverty line those extra babies would look like tis

 

So you finally agree?
FoxHastings said: ↑
Emotional outbursts are usually the result of confusion.

I didn't say that having a SSN or the census defines one as a human being.

I said one has to be a BORN legal person to get a SSN....and fetuses canNOT get one nor are they counted in the census...so they are not legally persons.

A newborn can get a SSN, your personal history is irrelevant.

 

After a child is conceived in the womb it also is a real actual person. Do we not plant seeds in our garden and when they germinate and send out roots and they break the ground leaves begin to form. Soon they flower and are pollinated and they start to bear fruit. People come along and ask "what are you growing" and we tell them tomatoes, cucumbers or whatever. The plants are like a womans body. The mother earth keeps the roots (Umbiblical cord) warm which supply's nourishment to the plant.
It is a living plant even if it hasn't produced fruit yet. It will not bear fruit until the flower is cross pollinated. Once pollinated a bud forms and over a period of time the fruit grows larger. At all times of the process the fruit is still part of the mother plant and receiving all it's nourishment from the mother plant. Now I could pull up the plant at any time and kill the mother plant so it doesn't bare fruit or I can kill the buds so it doesn't bear fruit. In either case the outcome would not be productive. Is there any thing in nature, other than human nature, that kills it's offspring before they are born?

 

Can you quote some people on the left who claim our population is shrinking?

 

The babies are rejoicing!

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No theyre recognizing a woman’s right to choose.

 

I don't think you're explaining your thought process very well. Or maybe it's just muddled in your own head. If someone shot a pregnant woman, and her and the baby died, the shooter could be charged with two homicides. The prosecutor could even do that if she was shot while she was on her way to the abortion clinic to kill the baby herself. because it's not about her choice, it's about the life being destroyed.

 

SO WHAT? A SSN isn't necessary to be a human being.

 

IT’S COME TO THIS: MSNBC Condemns ‘Talk About The Constitution’ In SCOTUS Draft Opinion.

It's a life.

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“Here’s the problem with public officials deciding to ignore the Constitution: If you’re the president, if you’re a member of Congress, if you are a TSA agent, the only reason why somebody should listen to what you say, instead of horsewhipping you out of town for your impertinence, is because you exercise power via the Constitution. If the Constitution doesn’t count, you don’t have any legitimate power. You’re a thief, a brigand, an officious busybody trying to exercise power you don’t possess. So if we’re going to start ignoring the Constitution, I’m going to start ignoring whatever they say.”

https://instapundit.com/520198/

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Emotional outbursts are usually the result of confusion.

I didn't say that having a SSN or the census defines one as a human being.

I said one has to be a BORN legal person to get a SSN....and fetuses canNOT get one nor are they counted in the census...so they are not legally persons.

A newborn can get a SSN, your personal history is irrelevant.

No, but to get a SSN one has to be a BORN PERSON....that's why a fetus can't get a SSN.

 

As I have noted in your post and this stupid contention that a SSN# somehow defines you as a human being and without one you are not.

Then what is your point here. All the illegal aliens crossing our borders don't have SSN# does that mean they are not human beings and we can abort them as they try to enter?

 

I have NEVER said that ....it's just the desperate rightie's IMAGINATION hard at work when they have no point or refutation...

The point if that IF a fetus was a person it could get a SSN....and it can't, nor is it counted in the census ..



How many times do I have to say that ?......but if you don't want the truth you'll wriggle around it.


""I said one has to be a BORN legal person to get a SSN....and fetuses canNOT get one nor are they counted in the census...so they are not legally persons.

A newborn can get a SSN, your personal history is irrelevant.


to get a SSN one has to be a BORN PERSON....that's why a fetus can't get a SSN."""

 

There are billions of people, human beings, persons who do not have SS#'s and they are still human beings, persons. Stop with the inane argument. A born baby cannot vote either does that make them not a person?