HUGE Win In Texas. Conservatives Take 10 of 11 Seats In School Board Election

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    The parents and guardians should choose their teachers and schools. Problem solved. :)
     
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    That sort of thing should never be mandatory.
     
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    I think the cost is more like 12 grand per student.
     
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    I sure as hell wouldn't want a bunch of religious nuts teaching that to my kids!

    Leave morality to the parents, not the State. And it isn't just concepts like you don't steal. This is a case of the State forcing religion on children.

    The schools are going to teach that you keep holy the lords day? LOL! Welcome to 1850
     
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    ~ School Choice . :aww:
     
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    You are making kids repeat a certain statement every single day that says America is under God. That is religious brainwashing in my view, but its not that bad. I'd have more of a problem with prayers in schools. I just don't get how this stuff helps kids at all.
     
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    Absolutely. School choice that transfers control of the entire education budget into directed education accounts owned by the parents and guardians of children.
     
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    The pledge of allegiance the flag is an odd thing, written by a socialist.
    Parents should decide if they want their children to recite it.
     
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    A bit more than that, especially in the worst school systems.

    “State governments contributed the greatest share — 46.7% or $350.9 billion — of public school funding in fiscal year 2019.

    New York ($25,139), the District of Columbia ($22,406), which comprises a single urban district; Connecticut ($21,310), New Jersey ($20,512), and Vermont ($20,315) spent the most per pupil in fiscal year 2019.

    Of the 100 largest public school systems (based on enrollment), the six that spent the most per pupil in FY 2019 were the New York City School District in New York ($28,004), Boston City Schools in Massachusetts ($25,653), Washington Schools in the District of Columbia ($22,406), San Francisco Unified in California ($17,228), Atlanta School District in Georgia ($17,112), and Seattle Public Schools in Washington ($16,543).”

    UNITED STATES CENSUS BUREAU, FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: TUESDAY, MAY 18, 2021, Public School Spending Per Pupil Increases by Largest Amount in 11 Years, RELEASE NUMBER CB21-TPS.57
    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/public-school-spending-per-pupil.html
     
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    ~ Would love to see it — yesterday is not too soon ! The money stays with the child and parent's school of choice — not the public ' education ' system in place today.

    This is one example :

    • The Montessori Method was developed by Dr. Maria Montessori in the early 1900s. It's a specific child-centered method of education that involves child-led activities (referred to as “work”), classrooms with children of varying ages and teachers who encourage independence among their pupils.
     
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    Yes, parents should have control of the budget, and teachers should be able to leave the current broken system and start their own independent schools to compete for the money. Empowering parents, teachers and children would also be smart politics.
     
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    1. You posted opinions WHY the stock is tanking and those opinions are political, not financial. Disney, quite literally, donated money to the bill's sponsors. They also were told one thing by some of the bill sponsors when it was going through the Legislative Process. Financial would mean the EPS, debt to equity, revenue increases, net profit increases or decreases, ROI, ROA, and other financial data. None of the links you provided discussed that as the reason nor the reasons why Disney Plus subscriptions went down. That is all based on the 4Q analysis, long before Disney decided to disagree publicly on what HB 7 does and does not do. In addition, if you do this to Disney, what makes you think you won't do this to anyone and everyone that also disagrees with you. Eventually, you will go after them too. And once that happens, you become more of a Communist than a Capitalist.

    2. Right now, we are in a market slump. So investors are selling. Not just Disney, but all the stock, especially Entertainment and Media, Technology, and Manufacturing due to fears of a recession, not being woke.

    3. And the County will be liable for all the construction. Permits are not that expensive. They are the cheapest part of any construction project. They can range from $50 to $325 for the permit. Not exactly money into the county. Meanwhile, the infrastructure will cost tens of millions of dollars for upkeep. This will increase the price of the entrance ticket and Disney will not start charging extra for parking, among others things. Meanwhile, property taxes will go up to pay for all of this. Congrats. You just screwed the average homeowner in Orlando and surrounding areas.

    None of your points are logical. It is based on politics, political emotion, innuendo, hearsay, etc. It does not use real data or analysis. All you are doing is pointing out the final number and then making up stuff to fit that number witout looking at the actual data. So, why is 4Q 2021 down for Disney? Before all of this happened with HB7 and 1557? I want financial analysis not your political innuendo and conspiracy theories.
     
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    That would be impossible to do on such a large scale.

    Second, we already have school choice. You have the choice to homeschool your child, use a private school, charter school if the child meets the guidelines, or a traditional public school. Within traditional public school and depending on the state, your child may be able to qualify for the Magnate Program for Business, Sciences, Arts/Theater, etc.

    All private vouchers do is create an inequity among students while costing the state tens of billions of tax dollars paid by sales and/or property taxes mostly. School vouchers is not the panacea because the best private schools will not go along with this and will limit the options. Louisiana is the only state that does this and their reports indicate it is mixed results. From the report, it had the following conclusions:
    1. The immediate impact of participating in the LSP was large negative achievement effects, especially in math, in the first year after random assignment;
    2. Those initial negative test score effects attenuated somewhat in the second year, especially in math, but remained statistically significant;
    3. Three years after random assignment, the average test scores of program participants were statistically similar to those of the experimental control group when controlling for baseline achievement, with small positive impact estimates for English Language Arts (ELA) achievement and negative effects for math;
    4. The statistical similarity between the average test scores of LSP participants and control group students in the third year of the evaluation is partly due to a reduction in the gap between the average scores of the two groups and partly due to an increase in the variability surrounding those average scores;
    5. The variability, or statistical noise, surrounding our estimates of the test score impacts of the LSP increased in the third year of our analysis due to smaller sample size, as more students in our study panel aged out of the grade range for testing, and because Louisiana changed the outcome test used in ELA and math for accountability purposes from the LEAP/iLEAP to the PARCC.

    The report concluded, "Our study indicates that the immediate effects of the Louisiana Scholarship Program on student test scores was negative but that the intermediate effects, after three years, are inconclusive and might reasonably be null or even positive given the high level of statistical uncertainty involved. These effects are not differentiated by gender or race; however, we find evidence of positive ELA impacts among the lowest performers at baseline." You really want to screw kids over with a school voucher program here? Or will the school voucher program just be for a certain group so that they don't have to deal with other certain groups? And if that is the case, then it is really not about the education of the child, is it. Just politics as usual when we started desegregation back in the 1970s.
     
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    IMO, the entire budget should be transferred to the control of parents and guardians and through them to teachers and schools. Any politician that proposed such an approach in detail would not need campaign donations to win elections. There is no fix for the current system.
     
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    That is more fantasy than reality. The reality is most parents cant do proper budgets with the money they have now. So what makes you think with the extra money they will do better and not worse. Second, selecting teachers to teach the kids will be more of a popularity contest because most parents and adults have no clue what a good teacher is and is not. And finally, as for the current system, it's inefficient, but it is not broken. Yes, it can be fixed, but get rid of the crazy people on the left and right first and get rid of the national politics as well. We couild use the New Zealand model but that will be too expensive for the average taxpayer to bear.
     
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    ~ Disney has been in question for quite some time. The new 'Woke' agenda just made things worse .
    " Everything Woke goes broke ! "
    ~ Donald J. Trump

    • Walt Disney has struggled to grow on the bottom-line in recent years, experiencing back-to-back years of annual net income declines between 2018 and 2020. For 2019, it saw a 12% decrease in net income, reporting $11 billion, while in 2020 it saw $2.86 billion in net losses.


    https://www.schaeffersresearch.com/content/analysis/2022/03/31/the-walt-disney-company

    ~ The Woke progressive agenda of the Biden/Harris administration is the very reason the USA is suddenly in a slump. :no:
    ~ Your analysis ain't so good either ... :headache:
     
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    1. Executive branch has nothing to do with the current market slump nor was the Executive Branch the reason why the Stock Market had a 23% overall gain in 2021 from the end of 2020. If you are arguing that the Biden Administration is at fault for the current slump, you must also acknowledge it had something to do with the Stock Market gaining 23% in 2021. Take your pick but choose wisely.

    2. I read the link. The link shows a reason or two why it has struggled. From the link, it says, " DIS holds a relatively weak balance sheet with $14.63 billion in cash, and $57.63 billion in total debt. Disney stock also offers a rich valuation, despite having high growth expectations this coming year, sitting at a forward price-earnings ratio of 33.33 and a price-sales ratio of 3.57. In other words, DIS is overvalued from a fundamental point of view." This is the last paragraph and explains why, in not so many words, the stock of Disney fell. When 4Q results came and estimates of 1Q earnings were far lower than expected, everyone predicted the stock would drop period. This has nothing to do with woke. So stop putting politics into something where it does not belong.
     
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    I thought Texas was turning blue?.. AOC told me so
     
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    People excuse this sort of thing as market volatility. That half a percent drop he's aggregating from the peaks. The peaks have gone up half a percent which is really bad over the past five years despite the fact that they have acquired so much of entertainment.

    What I like to say about what Disney is doing is they are kmarting.

    Do you know how Sears and went under? They're actually bought by Kmart and Kmart went on this buying spray of competitors without focusing on their stores and they just overspent and went to bankruptcy.
     
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    ~ No thanks. This place is called Political Forum for a reason. I come to this site specifically for politics.
    ~ Choice of schooling is not a viable option for the majority of parents due to financial means. We have inequality now in the failed USA public education.
    Ben Carson has the correct ideas about education. Public schooling has been a failure.
     
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    In local elections, no one is party affiliated, not for the mayor, city council, or local school board. At the county level and up, that is where the party affiliation is used to identify the person who is running for office.

    Fort Worth, and especially Fort Worth Independent School District, have had some scandals. with the current Superintendent resigning at the end of the 2021-2022 School Term, the out-of-state money flowing into local elections, and a few other issues. I don't think most people voted for someone who was "conservative" or "liberal." They voted on someone with the most name recognition.

    With Texas, local populations tend to be somewhat conservative. State and federal elections, I think it is becoming slowly purple. However, the gerrymandering that the GOP has done will make sure that the state remains somewhat red in congressional districts.
     
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    There is a time for politics and a time not for politics. when it comes to Disney stock and why it fell, politics is not involved. And avoiding my two options shows me you know nothing of how our economy works at all. If you want to comment on politics, be able to back up your claims when you are called out. And that is why I made those two options for you. If you want to say that Biden is at fault, then you are advocating that the Executive Branch is in control of the stock market, good or bad. You just want to use that argument for the bad and ignore it when it is good. We call this the do as I say and not as I do argument, or a word that starts with the letter H and ends in Y. Me, I do not blame Biden for any economic issues or the stock market because we do not have a command economy. That in incontrovertible. and I have been consistent with this. So agian, back up your claim or not. Choice is yours.

    Are you sure you know what you are talking about. When Ben Carson was running for President in 2015-2016, he literally said no to public school vouchers as his official policy. Second, for small and midsize towns, public school is quite literally the only option and they do quite well. Urban school districts are a different matter and they have mixed results and have been steady about it. The only thing I agree with Ben Carson, in an interview about a month ago, is to stop using kids as pawns, Period. However, his conclusion on why that is happening is where I disagree with it.

    Personally, I think we need to follow Eisenhower's example. For starters, we need to rethink elementary education in the three R's: Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic. Beginning in Junior or intermediate level is where social studies, science, English, math, PE, and Foreign language needs to happen. That will need to be developed further in High School. This is what I call a liberal arts education or broad-based education. High school should be divided into three categories: trade school, traditional high school, and college preparatory high school. To get into college preparatory or traditional high school, you need to take an aptitude test to determine if you qualify. We need less emphasis on high school sports and make those activities into clubs outside the educational curriculum. School comes first, everything else comes second. Finally, in all the schools, elementary, middle/Intermediate, and high school, the kids, through a rotational basis serve lunch, clean the school, take care of the property, etc, with proper adult education. School should be from 8am or so to 5pm or so, just like a regular job. And all of this is locally paid for and using the New Zealand approach for administration.
     
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    So lets find out how much you know about your own provisions.


    Then name the bills sponsors Disney donated money too.
    Guaranteed you won't answer

    What were they told and who told them.
    Guaranteed you won't answer

    Nobody talked about Disney Plus.
    Deflection


    Nothing was done to Disney. It was Disneys California owners who decided to stick their nose where it doesn't belong in Florida government. Since when does a theme park decide the laws of the state? Next time they will keep their threats to themselves.

    Another deflection. Disney isn't losing share value because of market trends. They are losing share value because they lost their special use permit which will cost Disney millions in cost and lost revenue annually. But you are free to fake reasons all you want. But you will never be able to explain how Disney stock dropped 15% while the Dow is only down 4% as market trends.
    Laughable

    So you thought my post about permits was over permit prices. :roflol:
    Disney has lost their ability to make decisions for their property, expansions, and future growth. They will now be under county governance for approvals for building, setbacks, and land management. And I see you ran from the information about Disney now paying property taxes on the value of their land, buildings, rides, and future upgrades. Thats another cost in the millions annually for property taxes alone.

    You love to ignore whats really going on like Disney is just losing stock value because of market trends but even Disney doesn't agree with you.
    If you can't look at stock prices yourself and align them with dates, nobody can help you understand.
     
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    ~ Nobody said that The Executive Branch of the USA controls the market — it does have a great effect on the world's marketplacee. We are witnessing that now in a sudden change from positive towards the negative.
    You may be thinking of another Ben Carson — perhaps the ice cream guy .. ?

    This is who I was referring to :

    https://www.the74million.org/articl...hool-choice-wishes-common-core-a-quiet-death/

    ~ No need to think when there are economic intellectuals like Alwayssa to tell us all the " facts". Please ... no opinions allowed !
     
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    Well, a person named Dennis Baxley has received financial or campaign support from Disney and he is the one who co-wrote and sponsored the bill. Corporations do this. They give to both sides in an effort to develop a rapport for business issues.

    https://popular.info/p/florida-politicians-behind-dont-say?s=r

    https://www.newsweek.com/disney-gave-least-250k-senators-that-voted-dont-say-gay-bill-1686128

    Disney donated $5500 to Dennis Baxley, $21,500 to Wilton Simpson, $20,000 to Manny Diaz Jr. and Debbie Mayfield.


    From the link, it says, "Chapek said that he called Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Wednesday morning, "to express our disappointment and concern that if the legislation becomes law, it could be used to unfairly target gay, lesbian, non-binary and transgender kids and families." Chapek says DeSantis has agreed to meet with him and some of Disney's LGBTQ+ employees to hear their concerns." Well, that obviously didn't happen on DeSantis part, did it. And can you imagine what the conversation was about and how it went.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/03/08/1085130633/disney-response-florida-bill-dont-say-gay

    No deflection here. And yes, they have talked about it in several business articles. See below. I am not going to repeat myself.


    The special tax district in Florida incorporates Disney parks, resorts, the city of Lake Buana Vista, the city of Bay Lake, and entertainment centers that Disney owns outside of his amusement parks and resorts. This would include Epcot, Magic Kingdom, Animal Park, cooperative agreements with Universal Studios, Disney Animal Kingdom, and others. This is located in both Orange and Osceola Counties Florida. And it is why, because of the special tax district, the area is known as the Tourist Capital of the World, among other things. I am not interested in where the HQ is located and that is a disingenuous argument on your part and does nothing to address the key concerns. Nothing Disney has said was a threat. The only threats are coming from wannabe totalitarian named Ron DeSantis who got his pink panties in a twist because Disney dared to disagree with him, or anyone else for that matter.

    Articles from investment companies and professionals have talked about this as the reason with nothing being about "woke" or any other political issue you want to pull from your arse.

    Again, here are several articles that talk about the subject.

    https://www.investopedia.com/disney...:~:text=Key Takeaways,the same time last year.

    When it comes to Disney Plus, they have a net operating loss. That net operating loss increased to $900 million while losing some 9 million new subscribers in the same time period. Again, a reason why stock is falling in a bear market.

    The article states, "Disney's fourth-quarter 2021 results disappointed investors, and its stock is falling. The decline was primarily due to slow growth in subscriber numbers for Disney Plus, its streaming service. Revenue for the company's other divisions improved compared to the same time last year." So why was the stock falling BEFORE the feud with DeSantis? Answer that question. I can pretty much guarantee it was not because of woke anything. That wasn't even on the radar.

    Here is another article, more recent: https://www.thewrap.com/disney-stock-ad-supported-disney-plus-streamer/

    Disney is adding advertisements to its subscription service and the stock dropped. Nothing woke about that, is it.

    In conclusion, Disney is not meeting investors' financial expectations or its own. In the second-quarter report, it wanted a EPS of 51 cents per share. It received 27 cents per share. It has a weak asset portfolio with high liabilities on its balance sheet. It is not getting revenue from Disney despite its theme parks and media sales are increasing.


    You may want to reread your post again buddy. YOu were arguing that it would be a big deal for Disney to get permits. Uhm no, its not. Whether it is cost or the fact that getting a permit is really no big deal for a company like Disney or the construction contractor it will hire. The permits will go before the building commission and they will improve it, no problem. But for some odd reason, you think it will be, which shows that you know nothing about commercial construction. Second, no they have not. They have lost the ability to not go through certain hoops or bureaucracies from the county government, but on their own property, they can still make the decisions on most things just like everyone else. However, they will not be responsible for all the infrastructure that connects the various parks, resorts, and entertainment centers. Now that falls on county and state governments. And if the county or state does not do its job, tourists won't come and local, county, and STATE officials will get the blame. And that translates into a poltiical scandal that Floridians will want to talk about. Meanwhile, the one million tax liability that Disney holds will now be transferred to the citizens of Florida, that means you, buddy. And the people who will pay for this, are the residential property owners in Orange and Osceola counties. That will be at the most a 25% tax increase on property taxes.

    Everybody knows they are losing stock value, but it is not because of the "woke" issues you are describing. It never really was. Only an idiot who has no knowledge of the financial matter, the intricacies of why stocks rise and fall, why indexes rise and fall, would be stupid enough to include the "woke" agenda as a reason.
     

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