Illegal migrants first to get ‘pallets’ of hard-to-find baby formula

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  1. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    Yes, there are, unfortunately, a large number of what they call "getaways", which are those who, as you said, don't get caught crossing the border. And yes, there are also a lot of visa overstays, which according to the last numbers I saw make up about, but not quite, half of all illegals. However, the overstays at least in theory should be easier to deal with than the getaways and even the ones who get caught but are released into the US anyway.

    With visa overstays, we know who they are. We know where they came from, when they got here (to the second), and where they are supposed to be staying while here. If they miss their flight home, we know that, too, although I don't know if we check or pay attention. We could, though, and more importantly, we should. And cut them a break, sh*t happens, people miss flights all the time, but if after, say, 48 hours they're STILL here, than a federal bench warrant should be issued for their arrest and deportation.

    When I express anti-illegal alien sentiments, and I am VERY anti-illegals, I don't mean just those swimming across the Rio Grande, though those are the most visible. I mean ALL of them. Illegal is illegal, whether you arrived on foot or on a plane. Although you would think those who arrived on planes, given the fact they can afford the cost if international air travel, would probably be more likely to go the legal route.
     
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    Somewhere between many and most illegals work jobs in fields, construction, or day laborers. The shipping costs for fruits and veggies would probably be more than any labor savings when it comes to the fruits and veggies (not to mention if they try to do it via boat, which is the least expensive, I'm not sure how much of the crop will be spoiled by the time it gets here. As for construction (and day laboring), it's hard to do roofing on a house that's in Topeka from China, so that's not happening at all.
     
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    Irrelevant. Morally, we all know they're cheats. They could apply like people from other parts of the world have to, but prefer to take the easy path - and then become the most likely of all migrants to absorb welfare.

    It's a very low act to tolerate that, while genuine people are waiting years to get in the right way.
     
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    With respect, that's true. America is doing it all wrong, and making a moral hash of it in so doing.

    That's what happens when you go for 'easy' virtue signalling, and don't give a damn how that impacts genuine asylum seekers and hopeful migrants .... much less your own citizens.
     
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    This is so different to my country. Our migrants really don't like physical or outdoor work. Our building trades & labourers, plus farm workers, are almost exclusively white. Migrants here prefer indoor jobs. Businesses, professions (particularly STEM and Law), public service, nursing, education, luxury services, etc etc.
     
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    It’s not cheating to follow the law and request asylum. It’s following the legal process set out here.
    Applying isn’t the same for people from all parts of the world.
     
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    It's the 'law' which is the problem .. obviously.

    Meantime, the criteria for migration would be the same regardless of where the person is coming from. I'm guessing America's must be at least loosely the same as for other First World nations. EG you must have a trade or profession which is in high demand, speak fluent English, and be able to support yourself and family for at least a few years without recourse to the public purse.
     
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    Well, perhaps making a false claim should be.

    Here are the facts:
    1- They KNOW they don't qualify. Assuming they've done their homework, anyway.
    2- They only start whining about "asylum" after they are caught. They're not crossing the Rio Grande and then turning themselves in to make an asylum claim. That's Plan-B, with Plan-A (not getting caught) obviously preferable.
    3- Unlike many legal processes, 99.99% of these bullshit "claims" could be handled in about 3 minutes. Maybe 2? And should be, too. Followed by a "no" and immediate deportation back to Mexico.

    Seriously, what is it with you people cheering on the illegal invaders like you actually want them to spring roots on US soil, where they do NOT belong. Why is that?
     
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    Those are the requirements for legal immigration, some of them anyway. In addition, if you're being sponsored by an American company, they have to show evidence they tried to find an American to do the job and failed. Most companies lie about that, of course, I've personally known some folks who lost their IT jobs to Indian Citizens, and were blackmailed to train their own replacements or they lose their severance. It's kind of hard to claim you couldn't find an American to do the job when you already have one!
     
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    1. Maybe but I don’t blame them for trying and our law slows it
    2. That’s patently false. They are going to ports of entry and trying.
    3. That doesn’t sound like long enough for due process
     
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    They don't deserve due process. They're making specious claims that they themselves know are unqualified, and you could take a high school student, give them about 4 hours of training on what does and does not qualify for asylum in the US (it's a short, very specific list, and it requires the claimant to have documentation that supports their claim) and let them serve as the decision makers for school credit and maybe some bonus points towards a post-basic training promotion to E-4 should they decide to join the military.

    That said, I note with interest that you ignored the question of why you are siding with the bad guys on this issue.
     
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    they are actually calling to stop inspecting (the hated "regulatory state") the stuff and unleash america's job creators in their quest to efficiently contaminate the food supply.
     
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    Talk about evil stupid. The Date on the shelf is 2016. It is highly unlikely that of the dozens of under one babies that come through the system each year that more than a few need any formula because they were likely breast feeding prior to crossing the border.

    That the Congresswoman can't understand tells me she needs psychiatric care. Soon.
     
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    Legal is the only kind. Anyone else is a foreign national/illegal alien.
     

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