Nebraska GOP governor says he will call a special session to pass total abortion ban if Roe is overt

Do you consider 1% to be rare?

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/fact-sheet/abortions-later-in-pregnancy/amp/

There is my source. I would love to read your source so I will accept your dare. Post your source.

 

This stuff cracks me up. One day I’m told “muh rights” don’t matter—democracy is sacrosanct. The next day democracy is backwards authoritarianism denying me of “muh rights”.

Geez.

 

Not all republicans. Just like not all Democrats are in support of late term abortions.

 

I actually support programs that allow men to terminate their parental rights in exchange for not having child support. I also think we as a society need to make sure children have the best free healthcare and education the world has ever seen and that demands dismantling both of those current programs.

No one should be able to force anyone bodily autonomy. Since you are all about it, should men be forced to have a vasectomy for refusal to care for their child? Or for making an unwanted child?

 

What is 1% of nearly 700,000 per year? The figure should be zero.

ETA Less exceptions such as still born of their life of the mother

 

Yes I know how the 3 justices were appointed

One was placed after a single republican refused to allow a vote for over a year.

One was sat legitimately per the intended process.

One was rushed through as Republicans knew they were going to be destroyed in the elections less than a month away.

If you were an outside observer you would agree this process was lacking moral integrity but since it was your “team” I have zero doubt you are cheering it as they are pushing your wanted narrative.

In the process they have destroyed the publics trust in this system.

I have no issues with conservatives being placed on the court but when they are chosen specifically for their ideology and while abusing the system to do so I am against that. The same applies with Democrats.

 

I don’t know if murder is the appropriate legal charge but yes, it is her body and he should have no say over the life growing in it.

 

1% of something is statistically rare

Seeing that the vast majority of those cases are due to severe fetal abnormalities or medical issues for the mother I am sure we can all agree we wish that number was closer to 0 per year — those mother that lost the pregnancy included.

 

Yet you have no information about Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, or Bennett that would fall under ideology other then they are conservative.
Speaking of ideology, did they not just confirm a Justice who refuses to explain what a woman is? Really?
I am not a fan of SC Justices being confirmed with 51 votes. But Democrats under Obama opened that door and they were told many times, one day this will come back to bite you. Did they listen? Nope

 

Almost no one supports late term abortion as an elective procedure. Most of the time they are not elective however

 

You misunderstood his post. He was talking about the motive for those late-term abortions, not making an argument about the share of all abortions they represent.

 

I’m talking about the CAUSE of late term abortions which you asserted was for medical issues.

 

So you and I agree that the process has been corrupted you just don’t care because it has thus far benefited your side? There is a name for that.

The Justice refused to identify what is a woman, this isn’t a simply answer from a legal term and she wasn’t being asked it as a biological question as she isn’t a biologist. If you are really interested in why she didn’t answer : https://www.usatoday.com/story/life...anji-jackson-define-woman-science/7152439001/

You can easily see which of the judges were not qualified by looking at their legal rankings from the BAR. That they were each chosen by a private secretive organization and then fed to the president should give everyone pause.

 

Do you support a man being able to relinquish his rights and responsibility over the child whether the woman wants to or not? Or only if the woman says it’s acceptable?

 

I am confused, can you rephrase?

All of the sources I can find show the motive for late term abortions is due to issues beyond the mothers control — most of them do not actually want to end their pregnancy at that stage.

 

Wow. It’s so easy! Amazing! Thanks for this enlightenment

 

Yes absolutely. If a man does not want the child he should not be forced to step in. If we are going to ban abortion though I do fully support his forced vasectomy however if he does not take care and have involvement with the child like the mother has been forced to do.

Do you agree?

 

Can you post your source that you dared me to ask for?

 

Here's the deal. If republicans do place a ban on abortion, then the voters will vote them out of power.

And thus whomever gets elected in their place will restore the ability to go kill your baby.

If, however...the people VOTE IN a governor who is clearly against abortion. Then that's the will of the people. Kind of like how right now, I gotta live with this bullshit equity racist ****. Or this pushing CRT or trans **** in schools and an inept administration who just seems to **** up everything it touches.

That was the will of the American people. So here we are.

 

Then you should provide one or more of those sources, because the chart you offered provides no insight whatsoever on the dispute. It only tells us that late-term abortions are a small fraction of total abortions, not what the motive is.

The dispute between you two, to which I'm mostly just a casual, but interested, observer, is over the motive for late-term abortions. Is it that "the vast majority of those cases are due to severe fetal abnormalities or medical issues for the mother" / "issues beyond the mothers control" / "because of potential death of the mother or deformity" (your claim) or is it the case that "the MAJORITY of late term abortions are used as birth control" (ShadowX's claim), which probably should be reasonably understood to includes social / economic motives for the abortion? That's the matter under dispute. What sources do you have to support your claim on that front?

 

Conservative need to be carefull here.

Support for the right to abortion polls in the high 70's

 

Sure.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/10/study-ids-reasons-for-late-term-abortions/

Notice how the mothers actual health is barely mentioned. What is mentioned is money and disagreements with the baby daddy though.

In other words, they’re using late term abortions as a form of birth control.

 

No, I stated the exact opposite.

Just stop. Everyone knows why she didn't answer. It is a question any elementary school student can answer. It was asked to expose her for her multi gender beliefs.
Claiming this is some extreme biological question just proves how far the left will go to defend a Liberal Justice. If she can't distinguish what a woman is or refuses to do so, why would you want that person making decisions on LGBTQ issues.

 

IDGAF where it polls. Elective abortion is an immoral abomination.

If one day in the future child molestation starts polling really well, I'm not suddenly going to abandon my opposition to it either. They're both evil acts, regardless of what the majority thinks.

BTW, I think you're probably wrong about where it polls anyways:



It's at 60% during the first trimester, not "in the high 70's", and drops dramatically lower in the second and third trimesters.

 

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1363/4521013

“Most women seeking later abortion fit at least one of five profiles: They were raising children alone, were depressed or using illicit substances, were in conflict with a male partner or experiencing domestic violence, had trouble deciding and then had access problems, or were young and nulliparous.”

There’s you another one. You didn’t look too hard did you? Damn they don’t even hardly mention health of the mother in that one either.