So what happens after a state kills representative democracy?

Wow still editing claims! You must be in full panic mode.

 

Did you forget you wrote this? "You of course thinks every Republican who runs is a constitutional crisis."

Apparently, you didn't forget.

 

What the voters want is the only thing that counts.

 

Heh, I've actually responded to that twice but you keep editing it out. As a reminder:

Although I'll repost it again in this reply. Now, if you some how manage not to edit this reply again, why don't you take a swing at actually responding? I know it's more difficult than just cutting out the responses you don't like so you can ignore it, but give this a try!

"False claims? You mean my characterization of your GOPphobia. That hardly qualifies as a false claim, but...since that's the standard, I declare your statement, "running for office after being involved in submitting fake slates of electors as part of a coup plot, that's another matter," is a false claim.

-You didn't qualify the standards of a "constitutional crisis"
-You didn't specify and actual crimes, indictments, or convictions of the official in question
-You didn't prove via indictment or conviction that he committed a crime that would disqualify him for office.

So my advice to you is twofold:

Stop making false claims
Allow representative democracy to work itself out."

 

Hmm.. so you picked the wrong issue, huh.. I was pretty specific, so this news doesn't address the use of covid mailing ballots at all. Does it. All you did here was point out, once again, how duplicitous your posting is.

 

Because, in my interpretation of their post, they did. If you disagree, you are certainly able to make a case.

 

I believe the people on Jan 6 and others who protested the outcomes in some states did so because they they thought, rightly or wrongly, what the voters wanted DIDN'T count.

 

It sounds as though you are excusing their actions based on their delusional belief about the election. Would you feel the same way if they did what they did based on the belief the Moon is made of green cheese?

 

Case made.
Your extremist interpretation of the post in question , which makes no reference to a "call to civil war" , now provides context.
The rest of the forum now knows how better to treat the content of your posts and understand your motivation.

 

The protestors, those who LEGALLY protested, yes they have every right to do so. The rioters who violated the law, no they should be prosecuted. And I said at the time Trump should not have held his rally that day, he could have done it before or after.

Have you forgotten what Al Gore and the Dems did in 2000 trying that The Big Lie to steal the election? How the Dems objected to Bush and Trump electors and tried to get them decertified? Yea sometimes it ain't pretty. But illegal is another matter.

 

What Big Lie?

All this has led many to compare the current situation to the nightmarish legal battle over the Florida recount in the 2000 presidential race between Al Gore and George W. Bush.

But two critical facts from that debacle have been erased from history and are not being mentioned anywhere today.

First, we know that Gore won Florida in 2000. If a full, fair statewide recount had taken place, he would have become president.

Second, Gore lost largely because, unlike Bush, he refused to fight with all the tools available to him.
https://theintercept.com/2018/11/10...t-the-presidency-with-a-preemptive-surrender/

Gore conceded, for the good of the country. Trump has yet to concede.

Retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, whose decision to vote with the majority in the 5-4 Bush v. Gore decision ended the 2000 presidential election recount, said Friday in an interview with the Chicago Tribune that she's not sure the court should have heard the case.

The ruling overturned a previous decision by the Florida Supreme Court that ordered a recount of state ballots. Republican George W. Bush was declared the victor over Democrat Al Gore with a 537-vote margin in the state.
https://www.usnews.com/news/newsgra...ndra-day-oconnor-doubts-wisdom-of-bush-v-gore

 

voter fraud, vote tampering, voter suppresion, voter intimidation...

all are 'impossible!' one election and 'an existencial threat to democracy!' by the next one. You dont really think people dont notice the constant flopping, do you?

 

I absolutely see the flopping. In 2016, any attempts made by Dems to show election interference was branded sour grapes. But in 2020, it was a stolen election!

 

Sounds like you're gearing up for a loss.

Wasn't it Pittsburgh that reached the highest rate of murders in history.

I think if your state elects Trump endorsed person they deserve it.

But I see why you got to pretend that it's a collapse of democracy because when it doesn't go your way it must be a collapsed

 

An excellent example. Hopefully it helps you notice when the 'other team' does exactly the same thing.

The point being that both 'sides' recognize our elections are subject to corruption and could be stolen, and neither side is going to fess up to it when it happens.

 

You mean Hillary had an attorney write a memo as a blueprint for overturning the election she participated in writing, had fake slates of electors sent to the National Archives, sent a mob to the Capital to stop Trump's certification, told Biden not to accept legitimate slates of electors, refused to concede, went to court over 60 times with all but one case rejected for a lack of evidence, and went around the country making false claims about the election being stolen from her? I must have blocked that from my memory.

 

Please provide your source, In the meantime....

You do know that the PA Supreme Court allowed the late arrival mail in votes, right? All that was required was that they were postmarked by Nov 3. Isn't that fair?

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/9224...can-count-ballots-received-after-election-day

 

Do your own homework for a change. Sorry you are so poorly equipped in most of these discussions. But fear not, you cited National Public Radio one of the most left wing dishonest information merchants out there....

 

You dont remember 'Russian bots' or 'Russian collusion'?

The point being that both 'sides' recognize our elections are subject to corruption and could be stolen, and neither side is going to fess up to it when it happens.

 

One side is currently lying about an election they claim, without evidence, was stolen. The other side is trying to sure up elections by, for one thing, reforming the Electoral Count Act. Ending gerrymandering for another. Standardizing voter registration processes for another. I'm so tired of false equivalences I could spit.

 

Then stop using them. In the very post you claim you’re upset about them.