White Texas Property Owner Avoids Arrest After Killing Moroccan Driver

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Not how state bar ethics actions work at all.
    Says the practising lawyer who has to deal with the state bar.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Apparently you're not a practicing lawyer in Missouri. LINK: Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel (mo.gov)

    Yes, I know. Its odd. I did a double take myself when I saw this from a link @Egoboy provided which I just copied to here. Despite what he claims I DID read his articles. Which is why I kept asking the question. If it had just been the states bar association I would understand. But this is an actual court proceeding. Something that the Pardon should have stopped.
     
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    And there are a hundreds of kinds of lawyers, so when someone states their expertise on such non-specific credentials, I wary of the replies. Most attorneys are dirt poor and scratching to make it. Or at least they're probably driving a 10 year old German car and still trying to buy a house.
     
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    Again you're proceeding on an assumption that is false: That the ethical requirements of a lawyer are satisfied so long as charges are dropped.
    That's not how it works, and that's not what the link says nor does the fact that the Supreme Court of the State invests the state bar with the disciplinary power mean a crime has to have been committed to call someone on the carpet.

    You can get your card pulled for not communicating with your clients: That ain't a crime.
    You can get your card pulled for not showing up to court repeatedly: That ain't a crime as the lawyer.
    You can get your card pulled for acting in an unprofessional manner: That ain't a crime either.
    Here, Ms Wannabe HOA homegirl with the absolute WORST trigger discipline I have seen in my LIFE was a ranking SITTING MEMBER of the bar's ethics committee. She was acting unprofessionally, hence she's on probation and all they're requiring her to do is a few pro bono cases ffs.
     
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    Hey man, you can take the free knowledge I'm giving you and settle down. Or you can not, and continue to clutch your pearls and act so charmingly befuddled.
    Its really up to you dear.
     
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    Thanks.. it's worth what I paid for it. ... maybe less..afterall, time is money.
     
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    I bet you're not.

    Oh and by the way, that building belonged to her as much as anyone who we let work in it.
     
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  8. Kal'Stang

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    Note that all those things you listed were a part of doing their job. What happened with the McCloskey's had nothing to do with their performance as lawyers. Mix in the fact that Missouri's Supreme court is the one that decides whether or not they're punished along with the pardon and there is something amiss here.
     
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    No, its really not. We give those people who work there permission to be there. We don't give permission for joe blow down the street to force their way into that building.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's impossible to force your way into a building with 20,000 lb doors and yes, that building is a public building, belongs to the taxpayers, and we have every right to enter it.

    How many were in the WH protesting the last 3 SCOTUS nominees?
     
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    No one was in the WH protesting SCOTUS nominees. And I've seen a line of people move 20,000lbs cars. Pretty sure hundreds could move that door. And no, those buildings are not open to the public except on a specific schedule in which tours are given. Even during those tours you are not allowed to just freely go wherever you want.

    Just because a building is paid for by the taxpayers, doesn't mean its public, and doesn't mean you can do whatever you want in it, or to it.
     
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    I never suggested the entire building would be open to the public. I meant to say protestors were all over the capitol. Pretty sure they weren't on tours or in "allowed" areas when they were barging into offices.

    And no, nobody is moving the magnetically locked doors at the WH. They were opened from the inside.
     
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    Then I'm not seeing what your complaint is?

    Windows were being busted in also. No doubt someone busted in through a window and unlocked it from the other side.

    Either way, Babbit should not have been in there. It was her own stupidity that got her shot.
     
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    It's simple. The WH is a public building and we have as much right to enter as anyone else.

    That's how it was originally for a long time. That was the intent.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2009/12/05/public-once-freely-visited-white-house-until-wwii/

    Funny how Babbit wasn't shot by the tactical teams on HER side of that door. They tried to save her in fact. She was shot because a leftist wanted to kill an unarmed woman. That's why she was shot. That's why the FBI let them in and led them all into a trap. That's why people charged with "trespassing" are being held without bail for over a year.

    Good to know the next time leftists try to breach the WH fence in large numbers and are burning down churches near the park. Sets the proper precedent.
     
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    That was a LONG time ago. Things change. And its debatable as to whether it was a "right". Times have changed drastically. If we allowed such today the President's life would be in danger constantly. We're simply too divided. Not to mention we have far more crazies today than even as early as the 80's. Also...Ashley Babbit was not shot in the WH. She was shot in the Capitol Building. And know what? You could once freely visit there also as late as the 1971. That was when two people from the left side of the spectrum planted a bomb in there. It went off on March 1 at 1:32am. It was because of that that restrictions started being put in place. LINK: When the Left Attacked the Capitol - POLITICO

    Irrelevant. I would have shot her to. And I'm definitely no "leftist".


    Bold: This is not factually known. Suspected. But has not been proven.

    Rest: All this is just opinion.
     
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    Yes, things change for the worse as we move away from the standards implemented when this country was founded.

    That's why you can feel justified suggesting we shouldn't have access to a building we pay for and are supposed to elect to serve there.

    All of these things you feel comfortable with justifying are the reason we have mass surveillance of US citizens, patriot acts, FISA courts, and attempts to implement a Ministry of Truth.

    We should be comfortable with none of this and remember who and what we are.

    Perhaps the damage is too deep and it will have to be rebuilt from the ashes, if that's possible.
     
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    Hogwash. I'm against mass surveillance of US Citizens, the Patriot Act, FISA courts and that stupid attempt at a ministry of truth. And have been since they implemented all of that. And more. Just because someone accepts one thing doesn't mean they accept other things. I'm a realist. Not someone stuck in the past thinking that nothing has changed or will never change or even that things shouldn't change. Not everything that we once did is acceptable in today's environment. Would it be nice to visit those two buildings freely? Sure. It'd be interesting to see Pelosi's face when I cuss her out for being the dumb bitch she is. And I have lots of ideas that I feel, at least some, President's would LOVE to hear as it would probably help their campaigns immensely. But this is reality. Where people bomb crap just because they're ideologically opposed to what it is they're bombing. And we have far more mass shootings today than we ever have. And you should probably note that I am against ANY more gun control laws.
     
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    "Reality" and "times change" was the same reasoning behind all those things you disagree with.
     
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    No comment.
     
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    So? There's a big difference between closing off the WH and Capitol Building to the general public vs mass surveillance of US citizens with a FISA court that does everything in secret. Surely you can see that.
     
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    No, there's really not. These are all parts of a whole to tell us that they are our rulers, and we are their subjects.
     
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    Sorry, I don't accept such an extreme position.
     
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    Believe what you want. That's how we almost had a literal Ministry of Truth.
     
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    WTF? If there is a strangers car parked in my driveway at 3 AM I'm going to assume imminent threat.
     
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    Kal.. friend, I am not understanding your usually rational arguements (unless I have you confused with another post) , you are using data and claims easily verified.. cars wiegh around 2000 lbs., about a ton, and groups of people have moved the small cars.

    Not only did LE let many protestors, but they held the doors for them, and a bunch of others were lead by infiltrators and plants, the FBI presence has been documented (tho' that evidence has largely bin suppressed), so FBI and antifa or FBI/Antifans were beyond a doubt inciting a riot.

    and YOU would have gone to prison.. exceptin' of course, you ain't DeepStater/Glolablist, Establishment,Demonrat operative. (and we wouldn't even know your name, for sure) in that instance. Saying you would shoot Ashley Babbit firmly establishes you as some part of you as a Leftist, I carry a weapon, always within reach, you can't even show to anyone unless you are in immanent danger. I'm thinkin ol' Ashley (RIP) would have been easy to restrain while she's going thru a window, she's not on her feet, and does not have a weapon threatening displayed.
    For me, I kick people out of the conservative side o' things when they commit or espouse criminal violence; to be Conservative, you must follow the Constitution and the laws covered under its authority.
     
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