Joe Biden: "When it comes to the gas prices, we're going through an INCREDIBLE transition"

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Not really, just presenting many things you left out or maybe didn't or don't know! After several of these oil debates we've had I'm leaning to don't know!
     
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    Remember when the biggest problem we had was the President trying to build a wall to protect America's borders? Those were the days.
     
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    It is renewable! Plant based petroleum has been around for several decades.. So what do you fry your chicken in? I bet you didn't know there is a big demand for used fryer oils whereas it is being refined in to diesel...

    Diesel Fuel from Used Frying Oil (hindawi.com)

    plant based petroleum - Search (bing.com)

    Damn, aint that OLD NEWS ;)
     
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    This is a lie. There was no "party switch". More Liberal Revisionist History.

    An embryo is a living human.

    Not what marriage is.
     
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    His "Day 1" executive decisions to, amongst other things:

    (1) Shut down oil and energy development in ANWAR which would increase use of the Alaska pipeline.

    (2) Blocked the Keystone Pipeline from completion.

    (3) Banned energy development on federal lands

    (4) Shut down the sale of energy leases in the Gulf of Mexico.

    (5) Blocked energy development in Texas, Louisiana, New Mexico and Alabama.
     
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    Not what he is doing. Read his announcements on his official White House website for what he is actually doing.
     
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    To the good of the folks that didn't want to be forced to buy in to it ;)

    Damn you didn't know that either, WTH Roy? :shock:
     
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    Science. Oil is plentiful and forms naturally underground, as Earth is essentially a very large and natural Fischer Tropsch reactor. Oil wells that get extracted and capped fairly quickly fill up with oil again.

    Made up number... meaningless.
     
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    How’s he managing to do something he’s not doing? Lol
     
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    I would say, from the read of your post, folks like you!
     
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    where's that corporate tax increase from 21 to 28% Biden spoke so much about during his campaign?
     
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    Liberals -hate- cheap energy - it powers the engine of capitalism.
     
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    Oh, but none of that had -any- effect on the price of oil.
    :cuckoo:
     
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    Yes, with Biden and the Dems in control it's a "transition" to shortages and misery from abundance and prosperity. They think that the working and middle class should have less and be more grateful for whatever handouts Dems deign to "give" us in exchange for political support.

    Economic Confidence Plummets in May.

    "Economic confidence fell to 87.7, more than 20 points lower than April."

    Under Biden and the Dems the wheels fell off the cart.

    "The index is now at its lowest point in eight years."

    All the way back to Obama/Biden.
     
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    How about not playing with markets through mandates which artificially cause markets to increase in costs?

    I hate social engineering and nanny government.

    Prices should be lowered be removing the barriers created.
     
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    How about whatever the market dictates without intervention and meddling in the market from government?
     
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    That won’t lower prices, it’ll just increase profits.
     
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    How can govts not meddle in a market where several nations have nationalized their oil and everyone wants to drill on govts lands here?
     
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    Thats simply not true. That is a left wing lie to attempt to dismiss responsibility for costs.

    Even after permits for drilling have been issued, environmental permits, access permits, and a host of other permits are required before a rig can even be mobilized. This effort, along with the red tape, costs a substantial amount of money and thus is a logistical nightmare.

    Imposing even more barriers and red tape does not solve the problem. Stop deflecting.
     
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    That's non-sense.

    If oil companies could just set the price based on desired profits like you suggest, why were they $2.00 a gallon when Trump was president.

    The oil industry is 100% subject to market forces, those that affect cost. The fact is, the left is hugely anti-oil, and their ideological agenda drives up costs through market intervention and regulation.

    Why can't the left simply acknowledge this, defend it against green agendas, and move on. Why all the deflection?
     
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    Take all the agendas and politics out, make the drilling affordable and accessible. THat influx of oil in the global commodity market will cause prices to drop.
     
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    Because they know if they actually run on their "Keep gas prices high!!!" platform, they'll lose 90% of their elections.
     
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    Just history, basic political history. "In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3] As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right relative to the 1950s.[4]

    The phrase "Southern Strategy" refers primarily to "top down" narratives of the political realignment of the South which suggest that Republican leaders consciously appealed to many white Southerners' racial grievances in order to gain their support.[5] This top-down narrative of the Southern Strategy is generally believed to be the primary force that transformed Southern politics following the civil rights era. The scholarly consensus is that racial conservatism was critical in the post-Civil Rights Act realignment of the Republican and Democratic parties.[citation needed][6][7] Several aspects of this view have been debated by some historians and political scientists.[8][9][10][11][12]

    The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[4] In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) for exploiting racial polarization to win elections and ignoring the black vote.[13][14]" Southern strategy - Wikipedia

    "In 1976, former Georgia governor Jimmy Carter won every Southern state except Oklahoma and Virginia in his successful campaign to win the Presidency as a Democrat. In 1980 Republican presidential nominee Ronald Reagan won every southern state except for Georgia, although Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Arkansas, North Carolina and Tennessee were all decided by less than 3%." Southern Democrats - Wikipedia
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    If it has no mind, it can't think or suffer, and thus is morally irrelevant as an entity.

    Legally, it's what it is today. It's a legal contract between two people that has nothing to do with procreation unless they choose to make it so. And it's better that way. I don't want infertile people, old people, gay people, etc. to be denied the right to enter into this legal contract.
     
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    I've got my EV. But then I'm not middle class or below...who are the only people that are going to get ****ed by progressive dipshit woke environmental policies.

    I hope they all suffer. Since they all voted for this ****. Enjoy!

    Weak men create hard times.

    Couldn't have voted in a weaker president. Enjoy your hard times.
     
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    Why would anyone take anything said seriously from someone who believes that Trump didn't actually get his ass kicked in the last election?
     

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