Most Americans say things going badly under ‘distracted’ and ‘incompetent’ Biden: poll

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  1. Polydectes

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    I'm not sure that's what he said and I'm of the idea that Trump has been the best president in my lifetime.

    This is an issue of me being bored Central conservative and you being further left.

    We will never agree on this so the only thing to do is agree to disagree
     
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    Well half the country got sold on the outrage of mean tweets soo...we voted stupidly and this is our reward.

    solved the mean tweets so far though! that's something, right?
     
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  3. Polydectes

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    No it's that I don't screech autistically with TDS.

    If you want to wine and cry and Carry On and boohoo about the past do it with someone else.
     
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    I'm sorry the sane folks despised your hero TT. Maybe if the GOP ran someone worth a damn they may get the sane half of the Country to vote for them.
     
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    Hey you've done it! You've got him out at the cost of everything! Sweet jesus what a win! Doesn't it feel like winning right now?! Wow!

    lol.

    (of course he might get back in because Brandon has been that bad but...we won't talk about that)
     
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    Yeah, your hero has no chance. LOL
     
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    Six in ten Americans: Biden is showing that he's too old to be president

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    He claims he's running again and a supermajority evaluate him as mentally unfit now.

    "Biden has demonstrated that he’s already too old for the job."

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    • "Democrats: 29% too old, 71% showing fitness for presidency
    • Black voters: 50/50
    • Hispanics: 57/43
    • Urban voters: 53/47
    • Suburban voters: 64/36
    • Women: 62/38"
    Women and Suburban most concerned.
     
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    I'm neither Right nor Left.

    It's very simple, and we need not make life unnecessarily complicated. If humans are to peacefully co-exist in groups, large & small, I support any measure that's logical, practical, and best for all people and the environment & its life-forms.

    People the world over have become so used to simply existing, but not thriving. The collective state of deprivation, boredom, and programming is so severe that people get excited just to receive a $600 stimulus check, or when the newest iPhone is released. And they look upon billionaires & corrupt politicians as rock stars, and treat rappers & musicians as pillars of society.
     
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    The idea in my original post was to expose the hypocrisy of the OP/Right, not to "cry" about the past.

    If anyone's crying, it's the Right-wingers that whine nonstop about the same NON-issues --- illegal immigration, abortion, gun rights, BLM, and Antifa.
     
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    Same here
    Yeah we do get carried away in that.
     
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    Fair enough. I think the reason we get caught up in tribalism is because of the need to struggle against something
    I think illegal immigration and gun rights as well as not necessarily BLM but the catalyst that started it social decision are issues. Sand I tend to support the right interpretation of it but they aren't going to do anything about it.
     
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    The failure began long ago when politicians & the public bought into the CDC's Covid/pandemic hoax. No amount of "stimulus" can hope to replace life as it was prior to this hoax.

    Private capitalist/profit-generating businesses are exactly what we do NOT need. Capitalism is a parasitic element in all nations, because it feeds off of, and needs, a pre-existing socialist foundation. The practice of acquiring profit/wealth is non-essential & confers no benefit to any society. The result of capitalism is always the same: The FEW benefit at the expense of the MANY.

    Numbeo, U.S. News Best Countries Report, CEO World, and the United Nations submitted their Top 10 Countries with the highest Quality of Life. The U.S. was not included in ANY of these lists. You may view them HERE.

    It is private interests that have always been the force behind restrictions on freedoms/liberties. The degree to which private interests are allowed to infiltrate & control one's governmental & public institutions will dictate the level of freedom its people will be subject to. The higher the degree, the lesser the liberties.

    Private businesses would suck up all the nation's wealth if there were no taxes. But if private businesses were completely eliminated, there would be no need for taxes because there would be no private businesses (including their employees) to tax. What remains is for the government/public institutions to do all the hiring & training/educating for essential jobs. All the money would then remain in public hands, and there would be no unemployment & no homelessness. Simple!
     
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    Struggle arises out of a sense of deprivation. If people are deprived of their basic needs, health, and dignity, there will always be struggle.

    I don't see these as issues, but as symptoms of real issues. So addressing these non-issues is analogous to using medical drugs to treat the symptoms, rather than the cause, of an illness.
     
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    Trump's presidency runs circles around this farce. All of the controversies were mostly media created. You don't need to create a media controversy with President Lame Duck, HE IS the controversy.
     
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    and if there's not they'll make something up to struggle against.


    So what's the real issue?
     
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    Ahhh the Obama $800B stimulus was in 2009.


    What other economic system is better and provides more economic opportunity and higher standards of living.



    Which ones are not capitalist economic systems?


    It has been when the private citizens are more able to act in their own self interest that we have the most economic freedoms and liberities and highest standards of living.

    Then start one and start sucking. Invest in the market and start sucking. Why do you expect others to hand it to you?
     
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    Cargo Freeway Expansion Canceled in L.A. Due to ‘Racist’ Roads.

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    710 carries cargo from LA/Long Beach Harbor throughout the US, and as traffic increases it snarls to a stop And since 1/3rd of the nation's imported goods uses this freeway, they were going to widen it. Now we learn that project has been shut down because of disparate racial impact

    "The 710 freeway, a major artery linking Los Angeles to its port complex, will no longer be expanded, thanks to opposition that claimed the highway is racist because it produces emissions that affected minority communities living near the road."

    "The cancelation means that the 710 will remain congested, leaving trucks idling on the road longer, creating more pollution than they would if they were able to travel consistently at the optimum, efficient speed between 45 and 65 miles per hour."

    There are only 3 major West Coast ports. Everything is set up to go through LA/Long Beach, even Oakland shipping goes to Long Beach before it hits Blue Water, and coming in, it goes through Long Beach as well. I'm not sure about Puget Sound, but, Oakland suffers from the same road bottlenecks. There is only a few freeways into the Bay and they snarl hard with traffic, and they won't build more freeways.

    Maybe it's time to expand I-90 and move more shipping up to Washington State? Or expand the Panama Canal and shift more to the Gulf Coast. Or, more West Hemisphere shoring and route shipping lanes to the gulf rather than West Coast.

    Don't look to Biden and the Dems for solutions, the demand destruction that we are experiencing is exactly what they wanted.
     
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    There's no controversy with Biden. He's doing what would be expected of any establishment president --- business as usual (for the sake of the establishment) with little/very slow meaningful progress. On the other hand, Trump was in it all for himself, and only himself, as would be expected of any tinpot dictator.
     
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    There will always be mysteries & the unknown. So if there be any "struggle" even in a Utopia, it could only be the struggle for knowledge, which is a positive thing. This is naturally borne of the curiosity within all of us, which itself is borne of the need to "remember" what has been "forgotten" --- to KNOW.
    The following quote summarizes the answer to that question. I suspect you'll be able to understand its meaning.

    "The important thing is this: To be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become." ~Charles Du Bos
     
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    There was no "pandemic" during that time. It was designed to offset a major recession. Apples to oranges.

    From Wiki: "Most economists have argued that the stimulus was smaller than needed. Surveys of economists show overwhelming agreement that the stimulus reduced unemployment, and that the benefits of the stimulus outweighed the costs."

    Also note that W. Bush, in 2008, signed into law a $152B stimulus bill to "avert" a recession. So Obama inherited both Bush's failures & a recession.
    A system of complete cooperation sans a monetary system --- as in the system implemented by indigenous groups all over the world for 100,000+ years. And it can be easily implemented in both small, primitive cultures and large, advanced societies.
    Every nation today is a capitalist/monetary-based nation with varying degrees of social programs. European & Nordic nations provide the most social programs/benefits, and, hence, have the highest standard of living, and the most content & "happiest" people. Other nations provide fewer social programs/benefits, while some nations are ruled by a hardline leader/party and provide little in the way of social programs/benefits. Either way, all nations are capitalist/monetary-based systems.

    Capitalism is thus a parasitic system that robs the working class of the fruits of labor. To what level the working class are robbed defines the nation & its people's prosperity. Dictators/autocrats do the most robbing. Nordic & European nations do the least.
    The issue is not private citizens acting in their own self interest. The issue is handing the nation's power/control over to a few private citizens simply because they have more wealth, votes, and/or some genetic lineage. This has always been a very dangerous thing to do, and has resulted in the collapse of great empires. No single person, party or group should hold the power of the nation in its hands. Power belongs equally in the hands of its citizens who can then come to an agreement on what is best for all.
    Starting a privately-owned business is the last thing we need.

    What is best is for the government/public institutions to do the hiring for all essential jobs. If this was done, for-profit privately owned businesses would have to compete with non-profit publically owned institutions. Privately owned companies would quickly collapse as they could not compete. Workers would leave their jobs to work for the government --- being assured of free training/education, good pay, tons of benefits, plenty of leave/time off, low hours, no quotas, safe working conditions, transparency, democratic control, no risk of layoffs, and no taxation on income.

    Also, be aware that when the government gives money to corporations/billionaires in the way of tax cuts/bailouts/subsidies/free loans, it is FREE to them because they didn't earn it. But when the government gives money to the working class, it is NOT free to them because they already earned it (ie, the money belonged to them all along).
     
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    Most progressive economist along with the Dems after it totally failed to produce what is was supposed and it's ALWAYS "we just need even MORE money".

    And again, "stimuluses" don't work and it was a DEMs wanted even more. Congress that passed it. So how much MORE money did they want to flush down the toilet. I was against the Bush 2001 "prebate" the 2008 and 2009 stimulus and the Trump 2020 proposal and Biden 2021 proposal.

    Ever read about what happened to the Pilgrim's experiment with your system? How about the former Soviet Union and China and Cuba?

    No not every nation, the most advanced nations are and even China's growth has been a result of more private investment and companies.

    It PAYS the working class for it's labor and that labor is free to improve it's marketablity to gain a higher income or even start it's own business.

    What power do these people have over me?


    Then you can work a 40 hour a week job for an agreed upon wage but don't whine about people who do take risk are willing to work harder and become successful at it.

    So you think placing your entire future in the hands of government bureaucrats is the secret to your happy life? Where would the government get all the money to do this? Who would run all these companies? And how does a private company, one made up of private funds and must survive on selling it's products at a profit, compete with a company that can just pass taxes to make up for any losses it might have?

    I don't know of any government free loans, tax cuts is not give money to a company it was money just like a citizen taxpayer earned and is then taxed away, both get certain tax deductions from their gross income to get the AGI number on which the tax rate is applied.

    Tell how well do you think the government runs the Department of Defense? Do you think it is a highly efficient organization that spends all that money wisely? How about the local department of motor vehicles, or the IRS or any other government organization. Do you think the federal government is the model for a well run highly efficient organization that spends every penny wisely?
     
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    Biden mad at staff for constantly walking back his gaffes

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    "The president sees a Republican landslide coming, he’s exasperated by his inability to stop it, so he’s begun to pass the buck. To his staff, to fickle voters, even to fate. “He’s now lower than Trump, and he’s really twisted about it.”

    "9mm bullets aren’t a freakishly powerful form of ammo; they’re the most commonly purchased caliber in the U.S., popular with owners of handguns. If he wants to go after the 9mm, he’s aiming for broad-based disarmament. Which isn’t going to happen."

    His staff hasn't figured out how to clean up that BM yet.

    Per WH isle clean up staff, "we won’t be sending Ukraine any rocket systems that can reach deep into Russia, as the president said. But longer-range systems are precisely what the Ukrainians have been begging for, not because they plan to attack across the border but because it will allow them to bombard Russian forces in the Donbas from further away."

    Staff walked that back.

    Biden's getting frustrated with getting corrected on his constant screw ups"

    "Biden is unhappy about a pattern that has developed inside the West Wing. He makes a clear and succinct statement — only to have aides rush to explain that he actually meant something else. The clean-up campaign, he has told advisers, undermines him and smothers the authenticity that fueled his rise. Worse, it feeds a Republican talking point that he’s not fully in command."

    You think?

    "The issue came to a head when Biden, in Poland, insisted that Russian President Vladimir Putin “cannot remain in power.” Within minutes, Biden’s aides tried to walk back his comments, saying he hadn’t called for Putin’s removal and that U.S. policy was unchanged. Biden was furious that his remarks were being seen as unreliable, arguing that he speaks genuinely and reminding his staff that he’s the one who is president."

    Then why does his staff control him instead of the other way around? If they are being insubordinate, why hasn't he written them up, suspended them, or if necessary, terminated them and replaced them with someone who recognizes his authority?

    "He jokes to reporters that he’s not “supposed to” take any of their questions. That's evidence that Biden’s more of a prop than a president now. The problem is of his own making."

    With the Putin thing, he participated in his own diaper cleaning, "Remember when he said in Warsaw that Putin can’t remain in power? The White House comms team rushed out a statement afterward clarifying that the president isn’t calling for regime change in Russia. The next time Biden spoke to the media, he signed on to that spin. “I want to make it clear, I wasn’t then, nor am I now articulating a policy change."

    So, what the hell?

    Our Idiot President did a similar thing with Taiwan.

    "Talking tough in Tokyo insisting that the United States would defend Taiwan if it’s attacked by China. Had U.S. policy now changed? Nope, said the president once he was back home in the U.S. Same policy as ever. (Never mind that he’s said several times in other interviews that the U.S. has made a formal commitment to defend Taiwan, which we have not.)"

    "If he wants to change U.S. foreign policy, he’s entitled to do so. If he wants to stick with the current policy, he can do that too. But his habit of trying to do both and then blaming his staff reeks of buck-passing."

    My damn staff can't make up my mind!

    "Biden is annoyed that he wasn’t alerted sooner about the baby formula shortage and that he got his first briefing in the past month, even though the crisis had long been in the making. His nominee to head the Food and Drug Administration, Dr. Robert Califf, told Congress last week that the agency was sluggish and that it had made “suboptimal” decisions as parents hunted for formula on empty store shelves."

    Sure, the Suboptimal Presidency.

    "That’s a curious grievance for the president to have after he claimed a few weeks ago that only “mind readers” could have foreseen a baby-formula shortage that was many months in the making."

    Sure, "mind reading" or just reading the news articles that were published months ago about the crisis that he was doing nothing about.

    His list of gripes:
    • Why did the Afghanistan bugout and bombing of our service folks and a car full of innocents damage his approval?
    • Democrats aren't "defending him on TV enough."
    • "Voters not giving him credit for the economic recovery at a moment when inflation is cannibalizing their incomes."
    • "He “just can’t catch a break.”
    • The supply chain is disrupted.
    • Russia invaded Ukraine.
    • Look at all the damn "COVID subvariant's."
    The world just isn't fair to poor Joe.
     
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