14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Gun dealer. I'm curious as to where they got the $5,000 to purchase them.
    need is not necessary I bought an AR-15 just cuz I thought it was cool. I'm allowed to do that because I live in a free country
     
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  2. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    You are the only person I have seen here or on any of the news sites (liberal, conservative, or otherwise) who has said that Salvador Ramos, the Uvalde school murderer, did not have a 'clean record'. Please share your source for this information... it is very important.

    Next, purchase and possession of different weapons, in varying calibers. in varied numbers, by legal means is not forbidden in the U. S., subject to laws imposed by local jurisdictions, of course....

    Afterthought... there are commonly-available weapons sold over here legally that are FAR more potentially deadly and destructive than an 'AR-15'.
     
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    I’ve built 3 in the last 2 years, with an SR 25 on the way. And a few pistols. Feels pretty safe here, especially since I’m convinced many posters here wouldn’t know a mini 14 from any AR ever.
     
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    The best source: 170,000,000, and Rummel only analyzed data from 1900-1987

    "R. J.. Rummel, a professor emeritus of political science .... has painstakingly compiled statistics accounting for the number of people killed worldwide by "democide," a term he coined to describe governments' intentional killing ... of civilians....

    ...Rummels books on the subject - particularly "Death By Government" (1994) and "Statistics of Democide" (1997) - provide the most comprehensive estimates currently available, and the ones most often referenced by scholars.

    Rummel estimates that from 1900 to 1987 governments murdered almost 170 million people - a figure that far exceeds the 34.4 million battle deaths thought to have resulted from all the international and civil wars fought during the same period.... Democide often occurs under authoritarian regimes... Indeed democratic governments were responsible for only about one percent of the twentieth century's death toll from democide...."
    THE ATLANTIC MONTHLY, The World In Numbers, Murder By The State, Vol. 292 NO. #4, 11/2003.

    Mass murder especially systematic genocidal ethnic cleansing campaigns are a hallmark of the progressive era.
     
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    There is no such group in this country, nobody wants any more of this crap but we should be intellectually honest about causes and cures. Politics are piggybacking on the bodies of babies.
     
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  7. Heartburn

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    If I ever choose to check out I hope I have a gun so I can get it done quickly.
     
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    Someone with an FFL.
    Never mind the bought them on different days.
    Your perception of need is irrelevant.
    And yet, its there, it means something you do not loie, and you don't get to ignore it.
    Don't like it? Repeal it.
    Oh, the melodrama
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Absolutely true. And this is why we need to get the NRA money OUT of politics.
     
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  10. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Most hunting rifles (deer, elk, etc.) are semi-automatic and many people own several.
     
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    It has been reported here that he had a terrible home life and had been habitually wearing women"s clothing. He didn't get any mental health support, attention, kindness or sense of belonging. He may have had a clear legal record but a misérable life.
    I know different models of guns are legally sild THAT IS THE PROBLEM. That was my point. Why would an 18 year old need TWO drmi automatic rifles?? Wouldnt that raise a few questions??
    And whether something is more deadly isn't really relevant. Or are you suggesting you can now buy tanks in your local gun shop and these killung machines are a moderate rational choice?
     
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  12. Pixie

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    Did anyone check to see if he had a hunting licence?
     
  13. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Generally not needed to purchase the firearm. Hunting licenses are usually seasonal; you get a new one each year for a specified hunting season.
     
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    That is not legislation calling for an "all out gun bans." The truth is that there is no pending legislation calling for an "all out ban on guns" anywhere.

    In any event, the firearm massacre enablers are
    finally giving in to public pressure. The permissiveness advocates can't keep contriving excuses for their impotence as children are slaughtered because of it.
     
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    I see you are using your bulls**t pen again…

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia
     
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    Yes. And most suicides here are from guns but they’re not exactly MURDERS in the sense that someone is killing someone else. It’s not a technically dangerous crime to others except family members. Just like most gun deaths are rather isolated to certain areas so the vast majority of the country is quite safe when it comes to getting shot.

    It’s all about the details. Mass shootings also are mostly gang related and relegated to the inner city.

    Just imagine if the news was showing how many children drown every year next to how many die from guns. Most people would think holy ****!!! The shootings aren’t as bad as I thought or how are so many children drowning? It’s about perspective and not looking at statistics in a bubble.
     
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    There wasn't any physical security at the Uvalde school. No perimeter defile, an exterior door unlocked and a classroom door unlocked. This was AFTER the lockdown was in place

    To top it off, not only were the cops total *******, some cops entered the building to get their own kids and left everyone else to die.
     
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  18. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    In this case, you're protecting a static target from an unknown attacker. An offensive strategy is impossible. What is possible, is to harden the target as much as possible.
     
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    Suicides are not counted in the homicide rate.

    I have no idea where you get that from.

    This would show that there is a direct correlation between the number of pools and drownings.

    Just as there is a correlation between mass shooting and the proliferation of guns.
     
  21. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    And my point still remains solid: the gun ban didn't accomplish jackshit.
     
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    I reviewed your list… he’s not wrong. For the 25 years after the Port Arthur Massacre, there were 37 massacres. The 25 years before the Port Arthur massacre, there were 21. The laws were passed after Port Arthur. If you’d like to lay claim to 1997, that would reduce the number to 36 massacres post Port Arthur.
     
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    Well, at least some of them felt that they had a duty to protect their own children.

    Constitutional Carry is clearly the only effective way to keep the peace.
     
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    The murder of one person is not a massacre. Try again
     
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    The latest victim is the husband of one of the teachers who was killed in the attack. The husband died of a heart attack while preparing for her funeral. Broken heart syndrome? Who knows.

    Husband of teacher slain in Uvalde shooting suffers fatal heart attack: Reports
    Joe and Irma Garcia leave behind four children
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/husband-teacher-texas-shooting-heart-attack-garcia
     

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