Beto O'Rourke interrupts Texas Gov. Abbott's press conference: "You're offering us nothing"

I forgot that way back when they used diseased animals as biological weapons. Thank you for the reminder!

 

A false analogy.

Gun makers (manufactures) do not sell guns directly to retail gun buyers.

Bars on the other hand are generally retail establishment that do not distill/brew beer/wine/liquor.

Do you deliberately make these apples and oranges comparisons?

 

What was this guy's "red flag"? The fact that he bought a gun when he turned 18? That's not a red flag. That he wouldn't tell anyone why? Not a red flag.

 

You still don't understand that it is the conversation we should be having now. There is no reason to discuss fixing the problem after we have already fixed the problem. You really do want to stick your head in the sand and pretend that crazy people will stop being crazy once they don't have a gun. How's that working out for all the people that have been beheaded South of the border by machetes?

 

The use of the somewhat bogus term "assault weapons" allows liberals to disguise their intent to ban all semi-automatic firearms. The term "assault rifle" as defined by Hitler could certainly be defined as a select fire, intermediate rifle caliber round. But liberals are certainly clueless as to the origin of this term (stermgewehr) and absurdly call semi-auto handguns assault weapons.

 

Hey I'm all for something, take the billions left over in Covid relief, and harden schools, it's not that hard. Double door entries with security guards and no entry anywhere else. Use the corporate model where they have figured out how to protect from lunatics. The covid shutdown created some pretty social inept kids that experienced a lot of alone darkness with no social interaction, I'm certain it took a toll on this kid. This kid was seriously demented and you can not stop him violence but by god not in our schools. I still want to hear more about his background and can't understand why it's slow to get out. One thing I know for sure stopping gun sales to law abiding citizens won't work but we can discuss further when we take all the guns away from criminals. As far as the AR10/15 personally I could care less but in Texas it's a fun and needed weapon due to all the predators and pigs. Kid could've done the same thing with a revolver unfortunately because the f'ing back door was unlocked.

 

Occasional?

Lately, it seems like we have one every week, or close.

19 kids * 52 weeks = 988 CHILDREN likely to die each year, assuming things DON'T get worse.

Do you have small children? Are okay with putting them through that increasing risk?

How would you feel if you had children that were killed in a mass killing attack?

Do you have any feelings at all? Do you have the courage to admit them honestly on a anonymous message board?

Some food for thought, let's see if you answer any of these.

 

you don’t care about the children. You care about the means of their death. If this was shark attacks or car accidents or poison that would just be another number.

 

Liberals implement training requirements in a way to impede gun ownership rather than increase firearm proficiency.

The liberal definition of safe storage means storage of a firearm in a way that prevents using it if a criminal attack occurs.

 

I assure you, if my nieces and nephews die because of a mass killing attack, I will become MUCH more willing to go through extreme measures to keep other kids safe.

Those examples you give are bullshit. I can prep my kids for those to improve their chances of survival without adding additional risk. I live in a desert, no sharks. I would never let my kids in a car belonging to someone whose driving I don't trust. And poison, yeah, I don't let my kids drink from open cups unless people I trust you them. Do better.

I note you did not answer any of my other questions. Why not? What are you afraid of?

 

Liberals don't care about gun crimes if the shooter is an illegal alien, e.g., José Inez García Zárate.

 

Every day you walk out of the house something could happen you me or a family member. Getting all fussy because it could be a criminal loon that takes them out, or just a car wreck is just silly. You're never gonna stop some things from happening and punishing 99.99999 % of all gun owners for what some deranged clot did is infantile and reactionary. Wear a seat belt, wear a helmet, look both ways before crossing and remember this is all fleeting and can end any moment.

 

Red flag is whatever the red flag law says it is. A teen buying 2 rifles, hundreds of rounds of ammo, multiple 30 round mags and tactical vest the day he turns 18 could be defined as a red flag. The transaction could have been delayed so LE could look into it. In Florida the red flags has been triggered 6000 times in a matter of few years. That's 6 times per day every day.

 

Beto who?

Humor aside [but actually I ignore who is this annoying guy], there would be a technological solution:
access codes for weapons for this or that structures.
Automatic defensive systems can detect incoming weapons without a valid access code: the defensive system will automatically open fire.
Period. End of history.

You can allow citizens to carry weapons and you can control them without great problems if you implement the suitable control systems [obviously these automatic systems should be allowed to kill persons carrying weapons without a valid access code].

 

Or the fentanyl coming China and smuggled across the border killing 100 times more a year. All politics all the time for them. Same with BKM ignore the murder rate on black on black yet hyper about a horrible cop. Same with children support a union that literally tried to keep getting paid while sitting on their ass and not allowing our kids to grow socially and academically. I could go on and on, the hypocrisy is sickening.

 

I have no issue with that but even delayed or denied the left would have screamed it was because he was dressed like a girl if we're being honest. This is the exact kind of guy the left protects until something like this happens.

 

I trust you are trying hard to be confused.

 

AAA hasn't drank the beer, but the peddle was there.

That perspective is so ridiculous.

 

Protection??? Please.

This is exactly the kind of guy that should be identified and given help before catastrophe happens.

But, resources and organization for that is scarce to absent.

 

People can die at any time, so we shouldn't do ANYTHING to increase our odds of survival if it means inconvenience to someone else?! Do you hear yourself?

No, I think I will support any legal means to restrict you right to have guns, especially semi and full auto.

I suspect as more and more children and other people DIE, while NOTHING is done to prevent it, that support for tighter gun laws will rise, to the point where gun huggers will have to decide to be the law breakers or not.

Or the country really will rip itself apart. I guess we will see.

Either way, your gun is not likely to save you in the end, IMO.

As you won't answer my other questions, I can't really glean anything else to help mitigate my opinion on your character, I can only go by your opinion on guns and freedoms.

Unlimited freedom, especially without responsibility, will be the death of this country.

Good luck.

 

Violent crime in general is down in America over the last few decades. Hyperbole, on the other hand is at an all time high. With respect to school shootings and finding a solution, I would suggest reading the report I linked to earlier.

https://www.secretservice.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/Protecting_Americas_Schools.pdf

As to "do you have any feelings" can we please have a discussion without an appeal to emotion fallacy.

How would a liberal feel, if their kid was killed by an illegal alien? Either via a violent crime of drunk driving. How would a liberal feel if they were subjected to a home invasion and as a result of lacking a firearm for self defense their wife or daughter were gang raped? See how these appeals to emotion work?

I have a question for liberals to answer. Would the people in North Korea like to have a 2nd Amendment?

Maybe instead of sending Billions to the Ukraine every month, we should spend the money here for mental health care, school security, and the like.

 

It weighs more than the M-4, which I would think is going to be an issue around mile 10 of a 20 mile road march.

 

Nope. No one is banning semi auto weapons that is too silly to even address. If you want to blame the gun and not the person who is doing the crime, wring your hands till they fall off for all I care, that's just fatuous. For the third time in one post I'll show you that your idea that we have unlimited freedom in regards to guns shows that you're incredibly ill informed on the topic as is evidenced by these statements.

I'll never understand how people will blame the gun when a criminal does something wrong but the police when they shoot someone improperly.