14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Still too much fog and contradictory accounts to draw conclusions.
     
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    Why don't you start with divorce. !!
     
  3. truth and justice

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    It sounds like he said "the children " not "their children "
     
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    You think police are there to protect YOU ? :roflol:
     
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    I have listened several times, I hear "their" but he may have meant "the" or been referring to the community's children as their own.

    I don't want to believe that they would do that, but, I also don't want to believe that they allowed the killing to continue for nearly an hour without actively engaging the shooter.
     
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  6. ButterBalls

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    I read awhile back that there now tech that can scan the sidewalk foot traffic for concealed weapons.

    This is pretty old mind you, so I'd be willing to bet it's far more refined today..

    Radar used to detect concealed weapons in public spaces (newatlas.com)

    If I remember right, there were some issues and concern with "The right to privacy"! Anyway enlighten yourselves this is the age of tech!
     
  7. Arkanis

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    Well, you see, running away is the normal reflex when you get shot.

    And this is one more element that shows that even if there were other armed people on the scene, they would have done exactly the same thing as the policemen: take cover.
     
  8. ButterBalls

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    They never make it before or during a crime the majority of the time :roll:

    Makes you wonder where these folks get this nonsense from?
     
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    It's probably already been secretly installed in D.C., especially in the downtown neighborhood surrounding the capitol.
    I talked to a man who used to install all sorts of secret sensors up on telephone polls there, mysterious undisclosed boxes.

    Police are commonly known to go stopping seemingly random people on the sidewalks there, searching them to see if they are carrying guns. It might not be so random after all.
     
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    Except it turns out they were not fired at after all.

    Your thread is falling apart is the truth emerges
     
  11. Alwayssa

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    We are enforcing the laws. What we cannot do is arbitrarily "round up the usual suspects" to enforce the gun laws. The Texas Shooter, the NY shooter, and the California shooter all passed background checks BEFORE purchasing the firearms used. Nothing can be done about that. A person who is in Texas, open carrying, and is "from da hood" cannot be searched or detained unless there is a cause such as observing a clear drug sale, for instance. And that is your problem with your argument. You want law enforcement to enforce the laws, and when law enforcement does enforce the laws and does not make an arrest on groups whom you despise, then you say "we need to enforce the laws."

    Note, I am only speaking of gun laws here in your post and my response. Not immigration or anything else.
     
  12. Pollycy

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    In THAT part of Texas? When I went to high school up in the Hill Country, about a hundred miles from Uvalde, everybody from about the age of 12 on up owned at least two or three or four firearms... typically a couple of rifles, a shotgun, and a revolver. It was nothing to come home from school and just go out and shoot a box of ammo or more, depending on which hunting season was upcoming. We grew up with weapons... lots of them... and weren't like a scared bunch of ninnies around them....
     
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  13. Pro_Line_FL

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    There is no need to amend it. Certain degree of regulation and 2A can co-exist, as Justice Scalia explained: "“Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf
     
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    That unique number is done by the manufacturer, not the gun shop owner or exhibitor. Some exhibitors file off that number before selling the firearm.
     
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Total BS. Dictators are very strict about disarming the groups they hate, (like the Nazis with the Jews and Gays and JW) but they encourage everyone else to be armed (like the Soviets who required HS students to take marksmanship)
     
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    Why not? Parents buy their kids guns and teach them to use them. However, if a lone kid walks into a store and buys two AR15s, hundreds of rounds of ammo, multiple 30 round mags and tactical vest, the gun shop owner might wonder what the heck was going on. He might even check with the police, or the parents.

    Its not about that. Clearly you are missing the point. Maybe the victims also grew up with lots of guns at home and were comfortable with them, but the point is that those kids are now in boxes waiting to be buried. It could have happened in your school too (only 100 miles away) no matter how comfortable you were with guns
     
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    We should make a law against filing off serial numbers..... Oh wait we already do.
     
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    No more than I think that forced birth fetishists really care about children.
     
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    Is that what actually happened here?
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So a gun dealer couldn't be required to put on another? Diamond merchants etch numbers into diamonds with lasers nowadays, there isn't some kind of unalterable number they could put on guns?
     
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    Yes, and Hitler Jugend did the same. There was never as many guns in Germany as during that time.

    Yes, he bought all the gear within few days of his birthday.
     
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    I'm curious about one thing related somewhat to your post... did Ramos buy those AR-15's at a gun shop in Uvalde, or somewhere else? If he bought them over in San Antonio, in Bexar County, I doubt anybody would have taken any notice. But in a smallish town like Uvalde? I gotta agree somewhat that it should have raised a few eyebrows, even in that part of Texas.
     
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    The shooter was not a crossdresser, courtesy of a deleted post by Rep Paul Gosar, and we still don't know that has been verified about his home life or why he was living with his paternal grandfather.

    The biggest issue right now is Uvalde Police Department. There are reports that the police waited, as Columbine time waited, before entering. He was not confronted by the resource officer on the premesis at that time and was inside the school for a full 40 to 60 minutes.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...os-texas-school-shooting-uvalde-b2087035.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/26/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting-thursday/index.html
     
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    Yes, and if the police find the person or persons who did it, then they will file charges.

    So, police find a firearm with the unique number filed off. The firearm was in the dupster. In that scenario, how would you advise the police on who to arrest in such a case?
     
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    It also looks like there was a severe case of cowardice among the cops at the scene. They need to be charged and sentenced accordingly, and Texas needs to take a hard look in the mirror and ask themselves how such p****s ended up in the force, and how many more are still in the force.
     
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