14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

What? There have been many more than that. You get practically that number every year

 

Dont be disingenuous. Most of those are self inflicted suicides. There is only about 15,000 murders a year.

 

As late as 1992 Australia had a strict licensing requirement to own a gun.

 

Provide the evidence that shows a person, any person, was unable to obtain a gun and therefore resorted to stabbing, or arson, or using a vehicle to massacre people in my country….?

C’mon…..I’ll wait….obviously you have access to many statements from perpetrators that run like this…..”If only I’d had a gun, I could have killed so many more…l…………….right?

 

So they never had the civil right to begin with?

 

You have a list of them already that you seem to dismiss with I don’t care that massacres increased, I don’t care that they used other means.

Are you trying to argue the Australian laws aren’t as effective as they should be? You are coming from the argument that their laws severely reduced gun massacres. Im saying sure, but massacres in general went up in frequency and just changed the methods.

 

Good Luck. I would not hold my breathe.

 

Not that I'm aware of. Australians have very few civil rights, anyway.

 

Quit exaggerating there has been 13 mass shootings at schools since 1966

 

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5?locations=MX

 

Interesting. It makes more sense in why they don’t understand.

 

We're supposed to trust that the government wouldn't abuse the system?...lol

 

Sho nuff...

https://news.yahoo.com/police-face-growing-criticism-over-202101630.html

 

Absolutley!

Single parent households are known to result in many factors that impact a child's rearing negatively.

Less parental support as they are working more, less discipline, opportunity to engage in behavior without oversight, lack of understanding of relationships and necessities of bringing children into the world.

Absolutely.

 

No its not 97 percent of mass shootings have occured in gun free zones. That is not an accident. That is a choice.

 

Now you go back and read the edit……..show me ONE example of where unavailability of guns CAUSED that person to reach for a can of fuel, or a knife, or his car keys….

And I am gratified that, at least, you are able to concede that our gun restrictions have led to a reduction of gun massacres……which is what this entire discussion is based upon…!

 

Sure...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

 

If you believe that, then you should stay well away from our shores…………………please!!

 

Just how much longer are you going to accept the bleeding bodies of children on the altar of politics?
Ted Cruz is paid handsomely for his stand on guns for all. How many others?
Trump is now addressing the NRA convention and not for the first or second or third time. How much are they paying him? Or other political stooges?
The whole thing stinks...infants dying for politicians' paycheck .
You have right wing moral activists preaching the protection of unborn children.
Who say sod the immigrants. Sod the innocents and the children who die by the gun. Sod the poor or those who can't pay their health insurance. Sod those who pray to à different god.
Let's support politicians who feed us the liés paid for by those who themselves profit and who call themselves à CHARITY.
The only people who gain from their charitable works are those who say sod those who happen to get in the way. They probably shouldn't be there anyway.
How very moral. How very consistent. Not.
They seriously should have a conversation with themselves and décidé what kind of moral compassion they want to live in. And follow through on that instead of throwing snowballs at each orher as the solution to everything and nothing. Cruz defend3d his position by saying everyone wants to live in the US. He never mentioned how many want to be killed there.

 

Do you trust them now with the Concealed Carry Licensing? I do. I've had one for a very long time and they have never "abused" me.

When people don't have an argument, they'll just say "why even try when you can't trust the government".

That's the mindset that will oppose every suggestion just for the sake of opposing them, and watch the bodies pile up.

 

Republican conventions are guns-free zones.

 

So many things wrong with your statement

1. Australia never had a murder problem to begin with. Australia murder rate in 1992 was 1.8. Australia murder rate in 2020 was .9. Sure thats a 50 percent drop off basically nothing to begin with. Meanwhile the USA over the EXACT SAME TIME PERIOD went from 10.0 to 4.7 k which is also a 50 percent drop in homicides. THIS IS DESPITE A MASSIVE INCREASE IN OWNERSHIP.
2. Most gun deaths are suicides but even with most gun deaths being suicides the USA still has an OVERALL suicide rate lower than several countries. You mentioned Japan. Japan has a higher suicide rate that the US despite virtually no legal gun ownership.
3. Murders in the USA are about 15,000 a year.

 

Where do you get that number? Most "mass shootings" are drive-bys and other gang-land nonsense where both sides are well armed (just the way you like it).

 

Yes!

We want them to grow up so they can then go die for some BS reasons like in Iraq, Somalia, and Afghanistan.

Or destroy their brains and suicide themselves with state sanctioned drugs, alcohol, tobacco, salt, sugar and experiential vaccines.

Because that's what those real concerned liberals running our government all advocated for.

 

There is virtually no data that supports that conclusion with any sort degree of accuracy. In America you have very small focused areas with a high degree of crimes. For example Chicagos South Side makes up about 500 of the 750 murders in the state of Illinois each year. Its basically 2 million people or so in the south side of chicago responsible for 2/3 of the murders in state of 17 million plus. Degree of ownership is just not a real factor in homicide rates. Your chance of being murdered in the USA drops to about the chance of being hit by lightning if you A. Dont deal drugs, B. Dont participate in Gang related activity.