What other countries do differently than the US to stop mass shootings

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  1. Kranes56

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    The reason we have “freedoms” is because it’s a better system of government. If they have a better system of government then guess what? The US’s vaunted “freedoms” are meaningless and causing suffering for nothing.
     
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    It's not a better system. Their societies are far more homogenous. If you want a far more homogenous society we can start deporting people and ending their citizenship.
     
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    I'm really sorry.

    I didn't think you were that vulnerable.

    From now on I promise not to criticize you when you compare those who want stricter gun laws to Hitler.
     
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    So the US should always have lower standards of living then them. But they didn’t. You can’t explain change if there is no variance.
     
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    Lower standards? What higher living are these people you're mentioning living in? I can easily show crime statistics and point out variables there. Hell I could even point to the mass shooters list of last year and show you the demographics of that too.
     
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    If the US has had a diverse population for its entire history… then the US should have always had a lower standard of living then other countries with homogenous populations. But the US didn’t. So it can’t be due to diversity. Stop trying to justify racism.
     
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    What diverse population? Up until the 1970s the USA was 90% White. It wasn't diverse. Even than segregation was in play too so people didn't mingle and there were laws prior that made it illegal for different groups to even fornicate with one another.
     
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    One
    Then another one
    Then another one and so on.
    If I had the power I would certainly change the lives of millions of people who have guns.
    How about the 'freedom' for every citizen to be able to defend themselves by owning some kind of personal thermonuclear weapons?
    Would you restrict that?
    There are likely to be a number of Americans rich enough to own nuclear bombs, after all there are individual Americans rich enough to go into space.
     
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    That argument doesn't work since Nazis actually expanded gun rights (which were taken away by Treaty Of Versailles), and pretty much taught every kid to shoot (unless you were Jewish).
     
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    Really, thermonuclear weapons?
    You sound desperate using such ridiculous extremes
     
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    Few years ago the argument was that those countries were overran by muzzlims.
     
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    So great big automatic weapons that can fire loads of bullets per second are not ridiculous huh?
    Where is your red line?
    At what point do you introduce restrictions to freedoms then?
     
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    They still are. Though not in the degrees the USA is rife with them. Almost half the population isn't White at this moment and the country is starting to look like the places where these people come from.
     
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    We have freedoms when we have a smaller government. My freedoms and your freedoms may not be the same and none of my freedoms are causing anyone any problems.
     
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    Prove they were 90% white when we know that racism meant people we consider “white” today were not always considered white and denied rights because they were “foreigners”.
     
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    Great big automatic weapons? lol
     
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    And…? Why should you and I have those freedoms if it is an inefficient form of government?
     
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    Specious thinking "if" you had the power to make such a change you wouldn't change the criminal you'd change a gun? That's beyond hilarious.

    Are you even trying? There is rampant crime https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43 from which you probably need a defense, but you're worried about nuclear weapons?
     
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    So they are homogenous, and yet at the same time they have been overran by muslims? Okey dokey.

    Blacks = 14% Asians = 6%.......so how does your calculator tell you 50%? Looks more like 20%.
     
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    No. Go look it up yourself.
     
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    Hispanics aren't White. They're mixed with the southern natives and are a variable mix. If someone is 50% White and 50% Incan they're not classified as White. They're considered other.
     
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    I take it from this response that you are unable to answer the question as to where you would draw the red line regarding the 'freedom' to have weapons.
     
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    As I ask Condor060 I ask you. Where would you draw the line at the 'right to bear arms'?
     
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    Ohhh you didn’t realize that Italians weren’t considered Americans did you? That it took them generations to assimilate? Or that the “filthy Irish Catholics” would ruin good mainstream WASPs? Face it, the US has never been homogenous. Never will be but we can be better of with all the diversity by working together with each other.
     
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    You can consider them whatever you want, but "other" is not a race. I am not surprised they are not white enough for your ilk.

    What is your argument anyway? That only white people comprehend laws?

    50% Incan......LOL
     
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