14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

I don't blame anyone except the shooter. But it's not unreasonable to review the ease with which the little psycho got two semi autos and all that ammo. Frankly, the parents of small kids everywhere are entitled to a little latitude, and even hysteria, at this point. Give them a break.

We are just strangers on the internet with no skin in the game, unless you're under 21 and planning to buy an AR with no training or background investigation.

 

You can buy both of those items and own them.

 

No.

He claimed that the homicide rate had decreased despite a sharp increase in gun ownership.

However, there has been no increase in gun ownership since 50 years.

You ok ?

 

Retrying

 

No...they don't! It's just crazy to think they do.

Instead of that moronic logic, how about hardening the schools to make it harder for the killer to gain entrance, in the first place?

Instead, you want to tell third graders to go hand-to-hand with an adult who's carry a knife. There's something terribly wrong with that thought process.

 

How far back do you feel we can successfully blame enablers in the chain before you feel comfortable? Since this ideeply related to feelings and not any kind of actual evidence can we stop with the sitting president?

 

I wasn't directing that post at you, or most people, but there are obviously some who do have such impulses and we shouldn't make it so extremely easy for those people to act the impulses out, like the Republican Massacre Enablers do.

 

I agree that if we're going to look at causes that the family life of the criminal deserves scrutiny. This kid apparently lived with a grandmother, where the hell are his parents? Who is helping this kid with school, personal problems, his future?

That said, I've been in situations similar to this where as an officer you're trying to coordinate something where time is of the essence and civilians who are driven strictly by emotion are wailing about. It's not that no one is empathetic to their cause, it's that professionals with clear heads make obviously better decisions. And those professionals will get burned to the ground no matter what they do, win or lose.

 

When you learn how to stop others' impulses? How long have we had control over that?

 

Gun control zealots just don't get it.
It is all about self defense and fundamental human rights and keeping the peace. If you had paid attention to the posts on this subject you would know that I am anti-gun. IMO, they are a PIA to maintain and carry, but I oppose political movements intent on using government to disarm the people. Only and armed public can keep the peace.

The police remained passive and allowed the shooter to systematically slaughter the teachers and the children, while actively stopping the parents from entering the school and to save the lives of their children.

Teachers who are unwilling to carry a concealed handgun and know how to use it should not be credentialed.

 

Let's face it, though. Machetes don't have the sex appeal that an AR does.

 

We can stop with the present Republicans in Congress. I don't know of any Democrat who runs on the platform of enabling people to easily purchase firearms

The first order of business is to make sure that seriously disturbed individuals and other very dangerous people don't have access to firearms

 

It doesn't mean anything binding. I'm sure the average cop joins the force wanting to do just that.
But there are famous incidents where the cops just noped the situation. Gun control advocates need get to get this thru to them: the cops have no legal obligation to protect you. And sometimes, they make no effort to do so.

 

No one ever has had such control. We CAN however stop people from having the extremely ready access to firearms we have in this country.

 

You cannot even remotely be taken seriously. In fact the reason we OWN guns to to make sure we do NOT have a one-party system. Get it straight, this is not a one-party government and we will not allow that to happen.

You're made sure everyone knows that we need guns because people like you would have a totalitarian government with control over citizens who have lost all rights.

If you can make those people magically not have access to weapons include knives in that fantasy, and also include children. For right now go out and makes sure seriously disturbed people cannot access children for evil purposes. Go.

 

And as long as that's the top priority, these crimes will always occur.

 

Yea, you said that already, but Florida judge feels differently because the "Coward Of Broward" sheriff will face charges for not trying to stop the school shooting down here. Texas might be different, and they'll worship the uniform no matter what. They have a more authoritarian mindset, and uniforms represent authority to them.

 

After the 1/6 riot, did Pelosi take away guns, or did they erect a big ass fence and put men with guns in place to guard it? Tell us which one happened.

 

I'd rather have an AR if I was attacked by a dude with a machete.

 

No. That is a fallacy

There is zero evidence that any mass shooter chooses a shooting area based on wether or not it is a “gun free” zone
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ss-public-shootings-happen-in-gun-free-zones/

https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/occur-in/

 

And I think that would probably land you in jail

 

That's why the schools need to be secured better

 

Not if I was being attacked by a dude with a machete.

 

Nope, there are 400 million legally owned weapons in circulation as of today and none of that is any of your business. Why not go deal with all the illegal ones first since that's the clearest high priority.

 

In the land of awesome freedom you can shoot people who are attacking you with a machete, in a land of less freedom you can run away from the machete until he gets tired of hacking bits off. Then, 30 minutes later, the cops can show up and scoop you into a bag where there's also very little freedom.