Looming Food Crisis - Russia Said It Will Not Export Food

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Jeannette, May 19, 2022.

  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I said in another thread, that the Russian Generals were annoyed with Putin's white glove methods in Ukraine, and that the war should be moving faster, but I disagreed. Knowing the way Putin thinks, I knew he was just waiting for the West - and especially the EU to self destruct due to its own hubris and stupidity.

    This way he feels, they did it to themselves, and it won't be on his conscience.


    Well there's a major food crisis looming, especially in Europe. I would like to know how the people in Europe are going to react to that. The EU expected grain from India, but they said no go, they don't have any to spare.

    So naturally they'll blame Russia, but maybe they should have thought of it before the sanctions. I'm positive Russia will find a way to help the friendly nations, As for the others? Oh well!

    On Wednesday, UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said that fertilizers and food products from Russia should be available to the world markets without obstacles. He and others see a looming food crises, but Medvedev said that Russia will not export food to the detriment of its own market – and that the West has to blame its own “cosmic cretinism” for the looming crisis.

    Earlier on Thursday, Russian presidential adviser Maxim Oreshkin predicted a global famine which, in his opinion, would start by the end of the autumn or by the end of the year.

    Medvedev agreed that without wheat and other food supplies from Russia:

    "Importing countries would have a very difficult time, because, without Russian fertilizers, only juicy weeds [would] grow.”

    “On the one hand, insane sanctions are being imposed on us, and, on the other hand, [the West] is demanding food supplies. It will not happen, we’re not idiots,”

    Medvedev added, that there would be no export deliveries to the detriment of the Russian market.

    Food for the citizens of Russia is a sacred matter.”



     
    Bill Carson and Eleuthera like this.
  2. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    8,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Well, there are talks now to give Ukraine long range anti ship missiles to de blockade Odessa.
    A6F64BB0-2B91-49BA-9558-38C441D4A73C.jpeg
     
  3. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
  4. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    22,694
    Likes Received:
    11,760
    Trophy Points:
    113
    US officials have declared the government to be at war with Russia, and their actions have confirmed that.

    I would not blame the Russians for holding back food for their own people. All is fair in love and war.
     
    Jeannette likes this.
  5. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    37,758
    Likes Received:
    14,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Good to see Russia working to improve its reputation. ;) It think it is time for NATO to provide the Ukrainians with missiles that will reach Moscow. Payback should be hell.
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2022
    Gateman_Wen and Thedimon like this.
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Oh you mean then that it's okay for the EU to go along with Washington and try to destroy Russia with sanctions and by arming Ukraine and then when the sanctions bite back, Russia should help them out without full compensation? Ya gotta be kidding?

    I'm sure Russia's demands will be very high. Humane they are, but fools they are not.




    With the Russians is to play fair, or do not play.
    [​IMG]
     
    Eleuthera and Bill Carson like this.
  7. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,707
    Likes Received:
    3,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Who cares. Most of its exports of food aren't to europe other than Ukraine anyway.
     
  8. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    37,758
    Likes Received:
    14,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2022
  9. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2015
    Messages:
    12,422
    Likes Received:
    1,965
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you want cabbage on your hamburger:
     
    Eleuthera likes this.
  10. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    20,754
    Likes Received:
    8,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I just went to the buffet and there was no shortage of food.
     
  11. bigfella

    bigfella Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    7,501
    Likes Received:
    8,671
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So Russia starts a war. Fails to achieve its goals. Blockades destroys or steals grain from the nation it invaded. Then tghreatens not to export grain, potentially causing a food crisis.

    Another reminder that Russia is a vile, murdering dictatorship that doesn't care who gets damaged as long as it gets what it wants. You have to wonder how amoral a person would have to be to support such a regime.
     
  12. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    22,694
    Likes Received:
    11,760
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Did you notice how much prices at the buffet have increased?
     
  13. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    20,754
    Likes Received:
    8,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Sure they always increase. I can remember eating Chinese buffet for two bucks in the 1980s.
     
    Gateman_Wen likes this.
  14. Oh Yeah

    Oh Yeah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2010
    Messages:
    5,093
    Likes Received:
    2,636
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There's nothing like "world wide hunger" that can trigger a third world war. Russia's inhumane war will come back to bite them in the rear. Unfortunately "War Crimes" will be vetoed but,God willing, justice will prevail. At least the Ukrainians have shown the world how weak and ineffective the Russian Army is. NATO needs to reassess it's alignment and it's membership. It is a tragedy that Turkie can veto two countries from joining because they have hurt feelings. Perhabs the U.S and other members can make their own alliance with those countries and offer support if Russia infringes on their territory..

    Personally I have already stockpiled cases of canned goods for a year. Even my dogs have a six month supply at present. Hopefully by the end of the month I will have added another 6 months of dog food. My landlord's parents run a farm and suppy beef for them and if I go buy a freezer I can get half a cow myself. We share the cost of a small garden for fresh summer vegtables and can a few others. Things like cereal and flour may be a problem as I haven't checked on the shelf life yet. With inflation eating up our cash I think buying food now is a good investment
     
  15. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2012
    Messages:
    7,866
    Likes Received:
    1,301
    Trophy Points:
    113
    NOT all !!
    Civilian Mass killings is fare ? Please
     
  16. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female

    Russia's inhumane war for concentrating on bombing military installations, and not bombing Kiev and Lviv to Kingdom come, the way we did in Syria and Iraq? This is getting a little sickening, do people still believe the lies in the MSM?

    Any damage to the towns and cities that Moscow wanted to free from the Nazis, were caused by the Nazis either by placing their guns in schools, hospitals and residential areas and holding the people hostage, or during their retreat in their scorched earth policy. Why not ask the people living there what's going on, rather than believing the propaganda networks.

    The people living in those areas are Russians. Moscow came to save them from the genocide that's been going on for 8 years by the Nazis installed by Nuland, so why would Russia treat them inhumanely? You're not a child, so start using your brains.

    Right now there are war crime trials going on in Russia, but we will never be allowed to see them and hear the atrocities. As for the lies about the grain. Russia has all the grain and food in the world, but it can't be exported to the EU because of the sanctions. So it's not Russia. It's the EU that is doing it to itself.

    As for Ukraine, they have mined the ports so ships with grain cannot get through and they refuse to clear them unless the EU gives them what they want. Also Ukraine will not allow the grain to go through Belarus. In other words they are 'blackmailing' the EU. Then again what else is new.
     
    Eleuthera likes this.
  17. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    37,758
    Likes Received:
    14,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Back in the 60's I used to take the train to Denver on my way to college. I always stopped for breakfast at a nice little restaurant about a block from the station. Two eggs, sausage, hash browns, toast and coffee was 65 cents. Amazing what 60 years of inflation will do to the dollar.
     
    Melb_muser, Eleuthera and Moonglow like this.
  18. (original)late

    (original)late Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2015
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    4,001
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This will be a huge problem for poor countries. Prices will go up here, but not as much. I suggest you start helping your food pantries and soup kitchens.

    Maine's big charity for giving food to the poor has several million bucks. But we've helped at local food kitchens, and given to the smaller food charities.

    The CDC suggests you keep a 2 week supply of food and water in case of emergency. For the first time, I've done that, and plan on adding a little more to have as a cushion. Lots of stuff will be more expensive this winter, so that's a hedge against the chance inflation in something like oil gets a lot higher than it is now.
     
  19. 19Crib

    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2021
    Messages:
    5,644
    Likes Received:
    5,527
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This is the medieval mentality of Russia. The invade a country because they are mad at them. Now they do 15th century warfare of decimation of the population. Why? Because Ukraine won’t rollover for the Russian psycho-bear.
    Putin no doubt loves the chaos he will create with a famine in Africa. He thinks it is funny. He’ll be laughing when he gets a mysterious crop desease.

    There is no good reason to ever include Russia in any conversation among Europeans. Free Europe should arm itself to the teeth, because Russia will have a go at them. Why? Because Russia is a curse on humanity. It is Russia’s doing and no one else’s.
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2022
    Thedimon likes this.
  20. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    22,694
    Likes Received:
    11,760
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, it does seem that in the last 20 years or so in the US, civilian "mass" killings is standard fare, whether by firearm or hypodermic syringe.

    Equally common is mass formation psychosis.
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2022
  21. Oh Yeah

    Oh Yeah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2010
    Messages:
    5,093
    Likes Received:
    2,636
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Your argument would possibly be correct except for the fact that there are countries from all over the world that have reporters in Ukraine veriving the atrocities being committed. Russian television shows only what it wants the people to see and hear. I wouldn't expect anything less from you in defending the propaganda coming out of Russia. You say the Ukrainian's have been creating genocide on the Russians for the last 8 years, and yet, were was the great migration into Russia? All they had to do was cross the border. If the Ukraine government wanted to eliminate them from the country they would have just let them cross the border. Putin has admitted that he considers Ukraine part of Russia and he even has his eyes on Estonia. He wants to put back the Russian Empire.
     
  22. Silver Surfer

    Silver Surfer Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2013
    Messages:
    6,871
    Likes Received:
    2,233
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your memory needs to be refreshed.

    US ambassador to the UN, was asked by Lesley Stahl of 60 Minutes in reference to years of US-led economic sanctions against Iraq: Lesley Stahl: "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" Madeleine Albright: "I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it."


     
    Jeannette and Eleuthera like this.
  23. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Correction:

    Russia invaded Ukraine to save the Russian speaking people from an ongoing genocide by the illegal American installed junta so that Kiev could maintain its power.

    .

    Correction:

    The population that is being disseminated is the same people that the Nazis in Kiev have been disseminating since 2014. This is why they attack and kill only civilians in Donetsk as well as other Russian speaking towns during their scorched earth retreat from the Russian forces.


    Nope! Because the illegally installed government in Kiev are Nazis.
     
    Eleuthera likes this.
  24. 19Crib

    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2021
    Messages:
    5,644
    Likes Received:
    5,527
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I think Russia is in a time warp caused by intellectual isolation. I guess they are just innocent victims of bullies. I never hear of people running to Russia. Why is that?
     
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2022
    Melb_muser likes this.
  25. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Yes they do have reporters and they also have memories, this is why 78% of the world's population is opposing the US sanctions and are switching to the yuan and ruble. If you don't know that, then it's only because American television shows and says what Washington wants you to see and hear.
    Millions of people have crossed the Russian border as refugees from the onslaught of the Nazis, and millions more to escape from conscription and to find work. The question is, why should the Russian speaking population give the genocidal animals from Lviv their ancestral lands. Those Nazis have no more right to that land than the Germans did to the Russian lands in WWII - and like the Germans, they will end up with the same fate.

    Putin said that Russia will take back every bit of land that has been inhabited by Russians since time immemorial. One thing is certain, the lands do not belong to a bunch of Nazis from Kiev, no more than the Russian parts of Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia belong to the Nazi supporters living within their make shift borders.

    Today Lithuania under Soviet and Russian law, does not legally exist as a sovereign nation. So from now on it will be called the former Lithuania of the USSR. Tomorrow the same will hold true for Estonia and Latvia. Now that they have no sovereignty, Russia cannot recognize them as part of Nato.

    As Vladimir Putin said, "they sided with the criminal junta in Kiev and could care less for the Russians that were being killed. An eye for an eye."


    [​IMG]
    Unlike some others in our sphere,
    to me Russia is: 'Mother Dear'.

    So if you try to break her heart
    and vilely try to grab a part,

    through devious means with lies and guile
    which as we know is your style,

    then also know you'll suffer ill
    and find it a very bitter pill.

    As others have who came before
    and didn't know what was in store

    for them. - Jeannette
     
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2022

Share This Page