Be forewarned: We'll KNOW if you watched the Jan 6 hearings...

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    We'll know if you watched them or are just repeating talking points fed by Fox. We'll know because WE will watch the hearings. And we will know in advance what Fox is going to "skip" and refrain from showing you because it doesn't fit their talking points.

    In the end, the only argument you'll have left is a conspiracy theory. A conspiracy that would require the participation of Trump surrogates, some in his inner circle, his most loyal lawmakers, police... and even a Deep State, since he WAS still the President at the time.

    It makes no difference if the members of the committee love Trump or if they hate him. Listen to the WITNESSES. Listen to recordings, see the documents... Facts are not going to change because somebody hates Trump. It's the TESTIMONY that matters. Not the question asked. But we know Fox is going to make it all about some "conspiracy" of never-Trumpers. If it IS a conspiracy, the testimonies will expose the committee. If it's not, then they won't. You can make up your own mind by watching the hearings. Why would you need Fox to explain it to you?

    So, option 1, you can skip Fox and try to LISTEN on your own so we can read YOUR comments and not just a rehash of Fox's conspiracy theory. OR, option 2, you can just sit back and let Fox tell you what you need to believe and what to say in this forum, even if it's not based on the FACTS that the rest of us will be listening to.

    Just be aware that, if you choose the latter option, we will know!
     
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    I believe Fox will televise the hearings.
     
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    "Knowing" is the key characteristic of the liberal progressive mindset. It's the superhuman ability to look at a screen name or a pickup truck and KNOW the mind and soul of the individual behind that avatar. Truly, it's a remarkable trait and only the liberals can have it.

    Reagan, I believe, nailed the concept down quite well when he said something to the effect of, "The problem with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so".
     
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    Why would anyone watch a kangaroo court in action? Thank God for Netflix.
     
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    Fox is going to be fair and balanced and air what the other side has to say since no one on our side is on this star chamber kangaroo court.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    I already have my chrome cast pre set on my phone to record the entire Fox News prime time line up.
     
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    There’s Democrats and Republicans on the committee or representatives of our political system, what “side” do you speak of?
     
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    No member of the committee was placed by a republican. It is 100% biased against Trump. Nothing new, in other words.
     
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    Yea... repeat of the impeachment trial... no cross examination allowed... and yes each and every committee member has already voted to impeach Trump once...
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    All those Pelosi hand picked members (never before done in our history) have already voted to impeach Trump once before.. There are only 9 members of what should be a 13 member panel.
     
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    BUT- are you smart enough to know that a hearing packed with democrats is not there to investigate, but to support a conclusion already chosen? Of course you do, and of course, you deny you do.
    We've watched the popularity of denial and the decline of character roll over the left like a slow-motion snowdrift, changing democrats from citizens with different points of view to citizens that don't think or care about any other point of view- and sadly, don't feel any remorse at their loss of integrity.

    On top of the dog and pony show the dems will put on, we have the followers who will not only endorse it but stretch it even further- and never take a look behind the curtain.

    I can't do that, it would degrade my self respect. That's not a problem for them. You can't lose what ya ain't got. And if they had it, this crap show wouldn't be happening anyway.
     
  12. Golem

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    There will be witnesses who are biased towards Trump. If the right wing conspiracy theory is correct, you only need ONE to blow the whole thing out of the water.
     
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    It really sucks to be in the minority, politically speaking, doesn't it?
     
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    Dude the j6 hearing are a sham. Every one with a functioning brain already knows this. It is nothing more than a last desperate attempt by the DC establishment and it's assorted enablers to redirect the anger of the voters from the abysmal performance of the Biden administration on virtually every front to Donald Trump as it happens he isn't running this year, so it won't work.
     
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    Nope, there will be some on Fox Business, but almost nobody watches that. I didn't even know it existed until it popped up as an excuse so Fox could say they covered it.
     
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    The committee has been investigating this for months. So I AM smart enough to assume they will have already reached a conclusion. What I expect the hearings to do is show us the evidence.

    The question is if Trump loyalists are honest (and smart) enough to LOOK at that evidence. My bet is that they will NOT. They will waste their time attacking the committee, the witnesses, the media,.... ANYTHING to avoid addressing the evidence.

    And I also bet they will get those talking points from Fox or any of the other sources of wingnut disinformation echo-chamber. And we will know this because they won't be addressing the evidence. They will be attacking those who SHOW the evidence instead. And they will all be using the exact same talking points over and over.

    I hope you can do better than that. But, to do better, you would HAVE to listen to the actual evidence. And I have a feeling that you won't.
     
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    Seems for some…
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    I won't? The left never has- but takes what it does find and contorts into "evidence". If you really give a damn about what's right, you consider all things with equal perspective, regardless if they take you where you want to go or not. We've never seen that yet from the dems in the years since trump was elected. I would never have thought, 10 years ago- that any group of people could be influenced to abandon principles and self respect on the scale that has happened here. And I'm not saying that for the sake of argument, I'm saying that is precisely what I've seen- and you have seen too if you are honest about it.

    All politicians play games with images, but especially the career ones; that is their bread and butter- an illusion of honor. Biden's done it all his life, where Trump was in a position where it wasn't necessary to play to the crowd and constantly posture for them. That was an error on his part- the failure to recognize the weakness of the voter's perception of that conduct in political character, but of course also the fault of the voters who aren't better men than that in the first place. Whatever Trumps mistakes as president, i think they are mostly honest ones- by tht, I'm saying Trump acted in good faith, where I don't think Biden has given a moments thoughts to the honesty of his choices or the effects on the people . This is not "hate Joe" because he's Joe- but finding Joe to be a loose cannon devoid of morals or patriotism in the national china shop that is unaware of his responsibilities- and further, would lack the character to honor them if he was aware. In my view- if you support him, you are either endorsing that position for yourself, or you probably have your shoes on the wrong foot most of the time. either way, that makes you an enemy of a free nation in my view.

    No hearing or evidence is valid when the people behind the investigation have an advance agenda. And it wouldn't matter if they were investigating Joe- I'd still say the real evidence, ALL of it, must lead the way.
    One of my major peeves right now is that Joe violates US Code 1324A every time he puts an illegal on a bus or an airplane who hasn't entered by the required process at the required entry point. These are felony violations. Jail time; 5 years per count. Go "research" that law; you can find it here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324

    The tell us how you look at that evidence and that law, and explain why Joe hasn't been indicted, impeached or jailed. Tell us how it right for you to be in jail if you do it once, but OK for Joe who's doing ti everyday in spades.
     
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    We are no longer a nation where "justice" comes from Constitutional principles and the strong desire to advance the benefits of individual liberty. We are now a nation that has turned to "social justice" and principles which subrogate individual freedoms while advancing collective freedom. Unfortunately, that path inevitably leads to slavery.
     
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    Why do you think they care about the facts, Golem?

    The entire world outside North Korea saw what happened and they've whitewashed it into some kind of rowdy kegger. The Orange Stain said he could shoot somebody and not lose any supporters. I thought was exaggerating at the time. Apparently, he told the truth twice in his miserable life. That and this...he said it about COVID. He meant it about EVERYTHING.

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    they will on the business channel, but not on the main fox news channel.
     
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    Deal!!! You and I will look at the evidence and will look at it regardless of whether it takes you or me where we want to go or not. We won't focus on trivial nonsense like which network transmitted the evidence, or to which political party the person who asked the question belongs to. You and I will look at the raw evidence and nothing more.

    This is going to be interesting...

    Who's Joe?

    Oh! You mean the guy in that Jimmy Hendrix song who shot his wife? I think he ran down to Mexico. That's probably why

    Ain't no one gonna find me
    Ain't no hangman gonna
    He ain't gonna put a rope around me
     
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    What are you going to do about it? I mean you will know, so what. Now you get say on what Americans must watch.
     
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    You have made my original point- when it comes to unsavory truth, the lefties just fly away to la-la land. Forgot who the "Joe" in the conversation was....
    At least you don't have to "play" dumb.
     

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