How San Francisco Became a Failed City

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...co-became-failed-city/661199/?utm_source=feed

    HYPERLINK has the entire, lengthy article

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    I went to see the city’s new Tenderloin Center for drug addicts on Market Street. It’s downtown, an open-air chain-link enclosure in what used to be a public plaza. On the sidewalks all around it, people are lying on the ground, twitching. There’s a free mobile shower, laundry, and bathroom station emblazoned with the words DIGNITY ON WHEELS. A young man is lying next to it, stoned, his shirt riding up, his face puffy and sunburned. Inside the enclosure, services are doled out: food, medical care, clean syringes, referrals for housing. It’s basically a safe space to shoot up.

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    Yes, the Atlantic is a Democrat influenced pub but the article is interesting. If you have the time, it's worth reading
     
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    Never been the same since Harry Callaghan retired!
     
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    What's hard for me to understand is how these people who are in control got there in the first place. I read a lot more than I thought I was going to but I didn't see anything that was surprising, it was more or less expected. All my surprise got burned up watching the riots that were sanctioned by the local and state government and then the raids on stores and the govt reaction was to lower the penalties for the thieves. What's next, benefits like healthcare and retirement? It is truly a beautiful place but a bit cold for me and even in the 60's when we were at Hunters Point, it was different.
     
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    With a GDP of $501 billion, the San Francisco metropolitan area is the sixth largest economy in the U.S. and an important hub in the global economy.


    The San Francisco Economy | JPMorgan Chase Institute
     
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    that's nice


    did you read the article from the Democrat influenced publication?
     
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    Money is all that matters for success.
     
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    I'll take that to be no. You really should read the article as it's from

    A Democrat publication
    written by a Democrat voting author
    about a city that has been under full Democrat control for decades

    it talks about the results of such
     
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    You should see Noel, Mo if you want to see the same with Repubs in charge for decades.
     
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    Doesn't that depend upon how one defines 'success'?
     
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    People are adorated for being rich so it must be the number uno goal in capitalist nations.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I was asking a rhetorical question. Your point is good. George Harrison was right--we are living in a material world.
     
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    Madonna said it also. I was married three times and each one had a price tag higher than the other.
     
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    SF has a problem saying “NO”. I have spent a lot of business hours in SF, and I can tell you that most of the city is OK. SF has always been pretty much an anything goes place. “Sin Tourists” got to see and/or partake in things they only read about at home.
    Then came crack, meth, and fentanyl. Cocaine, marijuana, and heroin have always been there, but the problem was controlled.
    Finally, the people elected a city government that gave up on trying to control it. Instead they regionalized it. They thought.
     
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    I mean the answer can be summed up in how they've voted...

    They voted on the notion of "gee wouldn't it be nice if" instead of the reality to how things are.

    **** em. Let them rot and serve as an example
     
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    Really? You can have all the money in the world but if you are a poor manager of it it is worthless. Does a greedy man have respect? Does free drug syringes get a drug addict out of his addiction? Does a free grocery cart and a pup tent give a person dignity? Does one free meal a day give a person the needed fulfillment and nutrition they need for well health? Does a rich city that fenses off one area and then directs it's mentally ill, alcoholics, drug addicts and homeless to live there really provide safety and services and sanitary conditions worthy of decent human welfare? If money is all that matters then cities like San Francisco which is the center of Silicon Valley riches should be free of such indecencies.
     
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    Plenty of Weirdo Street People and filthy Hippies. Plenty of LGBTQ people. The City of San Francisco is too liberal for too many that are conservative, Conservatives are a minority in San Francisco. There is still the possibility that the City of San Francisco could bounce back.
     
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    Informative and well written article.
    Good to see that liberalism won over the mess progressive leftism and nih created by recalling Chea Boudin.
    I say that because according to the article SF has very few Republican voters.

    Enabling leftists created the magnet that drew druggies to SF in droves. Normalizing addiction, burglaries, shop lifting and car break-ins was never going to work. Prop 47 where shoplifting is decriminalized needs to go and its no wonder the revolutionary pusher of this abnormal legislation was eventually recalled. People want their city back. I hope they get the city under control with more moderate leadership that is way less tolerant and forgiving toward crime. Change takes time. I sure hope there is change and the new leaders aren't just kicking the can down the road.
     
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    San Francisco is staring to turn around. They have booted out several progressives in power recently because they have finally decided that progressive policies make things worse. How much they turn around still remains to be seen but somehow they are getting the message to at least not be so extreme.
     

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