Chicago shootings: 39 shot, 4 fatally in weekend violence, police say

And there you have it, Federal control is the answer to all problems, except it's not. Gun laws that fit Chicago wouldn't necessarily be needed or would work in Billingsly Montana. Local control is better suited to make these calls.

 

you are talking about public scorn and stigma

those 2 horses left the barn a long time ago so shutting the barn door is senseless

 

income inequality???? I don't have Elon Musks money so I think we should take half from him and give to me

give me a freakin break

make it harder, not more difficult on single parents. Have the families step up and take in single moms or single dads and pool their resources



don't make abortion so easy

you want to reward bad behavior.

And the ultimate in racism= claiming that if you have black skin, you cannot prosper. Democrats have never been good at hiding their racism but the media has been running cover for Democrats

 

I’ll assume since you didn’t address the drug war that you agree addressing that issue would help reduce instances of gun violence. If that’s correct I’ll move on to what you did address.

I’ll list what I believe to be your points so we’re not talking past each other here:
1) Income inequality can not be the main cause because of rates of fatherlessness in black households. Correct?

2) Obama did not take appropriate action to address issues facing the black community. Issues are possibly related to welfare policies.

3) Not sure I understand your point about schools. I’ll leave it up to you if you want to discuss that one, though I will need clarification if that’s the case.

If you agree with my interpretations of your argument I’ll start with point 1.

The statistic you’ve quoted is largely a misinterpretation of data that conflates fatherlessness with marriage. Many black families are two parent households where the parents are not married. Many black households that are single parent have separated parents where the father is still active in the life of their children. According to a CDC study, black fathers appear to be more likely to be involved in the lives of their children. Among their findings; Black fathers (70 percent) were most likely to have bathed, dressed, diapered, or helped their children use the toilet every day compared with white (60 percent) and Hispanic fathers (45 percent). Also, more black fathers than white fathers took their children to or from activities every day and helped their kids with homework every day.

The idea that black household fatherlessness is any more significant than other demographics does not bear out in the data.

 

More proof that armed professional police are not peacekeepers.

 

Sorry, much of your post didn’t make sense. Could you pick a point and expand upon it, assuming you want to hold a discussion on any of these topics.

On the point of racism of low expectations: this is a common talking point leveled at anyone who believes socioeconomic factors can explain the situation of affected groups. In my experience it is just an ad hominem attack meant to avoid the topic at hand.

 

Been stated elsewhere but essentially Obama by dint of his having been da prez AND carrying considerable cache in the community has a large amount of clout he could use to sway black public opinion regarding bringing back the two-parent household and influencing women of child-bearing age to maybe not bear so many children while single - but seems to have passed on that role. Shame as he could have done a world of good.

He could have been the perfect role model black America needs.

 

If black people got their **** turned around they wouldn’t vote Democrat again. hence the only “solution” that ever comes out their mouths is free **** for black people

 

of course in your experience where everyone says the same, Democrat talking point and I paraphrase................having black skin means that you are incapable of success

 

Maybe they tend to vote for the party that is least interested in disenfranchisement of them and their communities. Black people in America, to my understanding, are pretty socially conservative. If the right made any attempt to curry favor with them, instead of actively pushing them away, they’d likely have a pretty solid voting block for a long time to come.

 

“Paraphrase” is doing some power lifting here my friend. Do you have any actual arguments, or are you content with ad hominem and avoidance of the actual discussion?

 

Sounds like a Tuesday in Chicago. Shooters were black, so the sats don't count. They are merely for "funzies". Now had the shooters been white? HOOOOO Boy! Grab your pitch fork fellas!

 

I dunno, it's bearing out here in da skreets. I posted about this before:

BTW, link to this study?

 

How are they being pushed away?

 

You have to wonder if these 39 people were all shot in the same location, same Walmart, or same school in Chicago what kind of attention would it get? I’m guessing a lot. So why are 39 people randomly shot across the city not a big deal?

 

Call Beatle Juice and ask her, it’s her city.

 

I don’t place a whole lot of value in anecdotal stories. Feel free to provide them where you see fit, but I won’t be considering them in my response to your post.

Here is a link to the CDC study I mentioned.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr071.pdf

 

Because we don't talk about the realities of black crime. It's racist to do so. We here at the DNC would rather just sweep this news under the rug where it belongs while going off about systemic racism!

And they wonder why they are losing the vote...lol

 

Their attempts to prevent them from voting are pretty solid examples of this:

 

How do laws stop the lawless?

 

How do murder laws stop murder?

 

So when the laws do not deter, people are not allowed to defend themselves?

 

Not what I said.

 

I'm gonna have to agree that it was a missed opportunity.

Obama should have got off the election high horse and promoted societal improvement through self-advocacy. Particularly in his second term. Seemed to give up and become more concerned about feathering his nest.

 

They don't

They also don't.

Enforcement of laws stop the lawless. Removing murderers from the streets stops them from murdering more. If you aren't going to enforce the laws, then you don't really have laws, you have suggestions.
How can anyone wonder why the murder rate is going up when murderers are being released from prison and back out on the streets?