Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're clearly unqualified to discuss this subject. Russia's logistical shortcomings have been on parade since 2008 and have been written about at length.

    For example:

    What images of Russian trucks say about its military's struggles in Ukraine
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/europe/ukraine-war-russia-trucks-logistics-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

    Buh-bye - Have a nice day.
     
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    Well then why isn't Ukie land winning with all the NATO weapons and training they've received since 2014? CNN? come on man

    https://defence-blog.com/ukrainian-...blem-during-the-operation-of-vehicles-humvee/

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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Unqualified to discuss this subject" What subject ? I never said anything about Russia's logistical prowess. Who is the unqualified one here .. the one who can't figure out what is being discussed perhaps -- having some conversation between you and the voices in your head.

    Who said anything about Russia not having logistical shortcomings ? Wasn't me .. does the particulare voice in your head you are talking to have a name ..? how about .. "The Crucified" :)
     
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    Knowing Biden is in power, I assume he caves before any conflict. But, if Russia pushes far enough, they will find out the hard way not to mess with the bigger dog.
     
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    The question is why are Russian "logistics" the laughingstock of the military world, particularly after the very same shortcomings were exposed during Vlad the Invader's revanchist misadventure in Georgia 14 years ago?

    That kind of incompetence and neglect sends young Russian conscripts back to their families in caskets, assuming the families can even get their bodies back....
     
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    You were the one who asked on what basis gnoib made his observation and I pointed out the MOST OBVIOUS example. If you were qualified to discuss this subject you wouldn't have had to ask that question in the first place.

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    He's so dreamy, isn't he? :lol:
     
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    So you'd put money on biden v Putin in both MMA AND boxing...I'll take your bet!

    It's going to be a 10 second knockout whatever the discipline. I would even wager on Angela Merkel knocking out the kiddie fiddler.
     
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    Biden is doing the proper thing and works within the frame work of NATO.
    There is no caving in, with NATO.
     
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    Glad you think gnoib is dreamy .. and like his observation .. that the quality of Russian Soldiers is poor .. but only someone " not qualified to discuss the subject" ..would claim/infer that logistics represents the sum total of the quality of Russian Soldiers.

    Then .. you state someone asking some one to support claim .. means not qualified to discuss a subject -- which shows that you are not qualified .. in logic and rational thought ..

    So who is the one not qualified here mate ? Two strikes in one post .. find me a different batter .. please :)
     
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    More straw men, please! :lol:

    Let's recap, shall we?

    If you were qualified to discuss this subject you wouldn't have subjected me to that fatuous drivel.

    Now that we're done here you can get back to worshipping your beloved Russia....
     
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    As Afghani villagers in sandals proved by kicking U.S assess on multiple occasions. The U.S army without firepower is a third rate army. Beaten by the Afghanis in sandals. Literally.
     
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    Once you meet the peer army in the battlefield come to talk to me. No one counts Afghanis in sandals (kicked your ass), starved and under equipped Iraqis etc....as serious opposition. Picking up on weak. Nothing to be proud about.
     
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    A former US general compared Russia’s war in Ukraine to a ‘heavyweight boxing match’ and said a ‘knockout blow’ is coming
    Jake Epstein
    Tue, June 21, 2022

    A former US general compared back-and-forth fighting between Russia and Ukraine to a boxing match, as the war in the eastern European country nears the four-month mark.

    "It's a heavyweight boxing match," Mark Hertling, the former top commander of the US Army forces in Europe, wrote in a Twitter thread late Monday night. "In 2 months of fighting, there has not yet been a knockout blow. It will come, as [Russian] forces become more depleted."

    Hertling said fighting between the two sides in eastern Ukraine's Donbas region is like a "punch-counterpunch" fight, where artillery exchanges, counterattacks, and moving frontlines makes progress hard to come by.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/former-us-general-compared-russia-143656799.html

    He also pointed out that Ukraine continues, for now at least, to enjoy an advantage in will and morale.

    Of course, the most important thing is that Ukraine continue to receive badly needed material assistance. Ukraine needs the equipment to send these invading pigs running home.
     
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    Russian forces capture several more settlements in Ukraine's Luhansk region (msn.com)
    Looks like Russia is gaining some ground in Ukraine. You have to think that Russia may have the upper hand. It looks like that Russia isn't going to stop there until they have all of Ukraine and that Ukraine will be a part of Russia and Putin's dictatorship will be inserted. Russia isn't finished with destroying Ukraine buildings and skyscrapers.
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    Ukraine may end up being an awful sight to see if it isn't already.
     
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    Hitler drew upon USA for his inspiration, as he noted in mein kampf. So we should never forget, USA (and to a larger extent, UK/europe) have never officially apologized for the Holocaust they inflicted on so called Africans. Therefore, they must still be proud of that episode in history and their greed and lust should never, ever be underestimated. Thus, we should all be on high alert to their alterior motive, white supremacy.

    Strange right...go figure.
     
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    The idiots didn't want to give Putin a guarantee that there would be no US missiles in Ukraine.
     
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    The Taliban says "hi"

    Here's the current status of the latest 'game-changing' arms sent to Ukie land - the much hyped howitzers:



    Current status: scrap iron
     
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    No such guarantee was requested. And had it been offered it would not have prevented Russian aggression. Your post is just another variation on Gleiwitz.
     
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    Both the UK and France have indeed apologised to the descendants of those who lived in their colonies and for the crime of slavery.
    In the UK the Queen has done so more than once on state visits and Presidents of France have also done so more than once.
    That 5 of the original French colonies choose to stay as French protectorate (outre-mers) and have seats in the French government is testimony that they dont buy your anger.
     
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    More US weapons used on civilians in Donetsk

     
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    Putin never even asked.
     
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    The German PzH 2000 have arrived in the Ukraine. Exactly on the day as promised, with the crews trained by the Bundeswehr, including the promised ammo and spare parts.
    The training of the Ukraine troops took 40 days.
    The PzH are fresh out of maintenance and had a complete overhaul, like brand new
    The PzH 2000 is the most advanced big gun in NATO inventory, or the world.
    With the Dutch delivery, the Ukraine will have one battery of those big guns.
    Germany trained the Ukraine troops for the Dutch guns and will supply the ammo, spare parts for those guns, too.

    This is big time state of the art firepower.
     
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    Were the Ukrainians trained in Poland? I know a lot of NATO equipment is shipped through Poland..
     
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    If that may be the case, how else will Putin know the score?
     
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    And the EU starts to split:

    "Tens of thousands of workers demonstrated against the rising cost of living, with many linking the crisis to the NATO’s war and Russia policies. Many demonstrators condemned the US-led NATO alliance and its involvement in the Ukraine war. Many linked their dire economic straits to the EU’s sanctions regime on Russia and with the NATO’s rush to arm Ukraine.

    Protesters demanded that their leaders “spend money on salaries, not on weapons,” and chanted “stop NATO.”"

    https://countercurrents.org/2022/06...-protesting-rising-living-cost-and-natos-war/
     
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