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Call me ignorant, but how can an entire city have no stores? Cities (and their suburbs) have dozens, or hundreds, of grocery stores. Even small rural towns have grocery stores.

 

The stores all close in an area, mainly due to violence but also because of economics. Many people like the elderly then have no way to get food.

 

Food Deserts in the United States
https://www.aecf.org/blog/exploring-americas-food-deserts

 

I'm still not following. Are there NO supermarkets in these cities at all?

Because surely it can't simply be that there isn't one 'within a five minute walk' or something. If that's true, then Americans are seriously spoiled. In my country, VERY few people live within walking distance of a supermarket. Even those in the inner cities have to travel 20 minutes out into the suburbs to access a decent grocery store.

 

I just don't believe this. We have vast 'food deserts' here, and our elderly don't die of starvation.

 

Okay, I just read that piece.

It's utter BS. In the opening line, it refers to CONVENIENCE. Then compounds the BS by suggesting it's anything more than one mile (or ten miles in a rural area).

What a freaking joke.

 

Yeh. It’s 25 miles to the closest grocery store for me. There is public transit for people without a vehicle or ability to drive. And neighbors pick up things for each other a lot.

I’ve never heard anyone complain about a food desert. Not even older folks on fixed incomes.

 

I've been told all those guys spit in your food anyway, same for most restaurants. I can buy literal caviar for what even most fast food places charge for just middling fare.. I have something like 8 grand in just appliances in my kitchen anyway, why should I waste that?

 

Jesus christ people. Read. Use google. It has been a huge problem for a decade now.

There is public transit to a farm in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, right.

 

The bags are sealed by the restaurant.

 

Does anyone have anything but BS to post? Apparently not. What a crowd.

Continue trolling on your own.

 

You must be the most uninformed PF member. And you don’t have to be. You are intelligent and capable of educating yourself. I suggest you try doing so. It will save you much embarrassment in the future.

Yes there is public transit all over this very Red rural state. Here is the page for an area not terribly far from me.

https://cityofbrokenbow.org/handi-bus/

 

Your ignorance of the world and how it works does not mean what others post is BS. At some point you would think that would be obvious to you. Almost everything you post is incorrect and almost everything you call BS is easily documented to be true.

 

Hey @crank,

I was thinking more about this food desert thing last night and thought you would find this interesting (but not surprising).

The closest town to me has less than 100 residents. No grocery, no gas station convenience store. It does maintain a well stocked food pantry that is open 24 hours a day to anyone who wants/needs anything. It’s completely unsupervised self serve whatever you want to take.

During the winter there are shelf stable fruits and vegetables like apples, carrots and winter squash. In the summer there is everything from greens to eggplant to tomatoes and cucumbers. It is very rare that any of it is taken. It mostly gets funky and ends up in someone’s chicken yard. Canned fruits and vegetables don’t rot but remain on the shelves. Cake and brownie mixes go fast. So do sugary cereals and chips and Spaghetti O’s.

The point is people don’t want nutritious food. It’s why convenience stores and small grocers don’t carry fresh produce. They would lose too much money on unsold inventory. If there are food deserts it’s because the market is delivering what the consumer wants.

 

Why is someone without a car living in the middle of nowhere? Who and what external force is making them stay in such unsuitable conditions? Laws? The military? Barbed wire?

 

It's not even about lack of public transport - from what I'm reading they don't want to use public transport at all. These whining babies expect a supermarket so close to home that they don't have to lower themselves taking the bus. It's basically just spoiled brats - and for some bizarre reason, otherwise sensible adults are listening to them.

 

I'm not even a tiny bit surprised. I saw a docu about this very problem. A film crew followed two families complaining of 'food deserts', to see what was actually happening. Both families was morbidly obese. And when at the nearest grocery store, one of the families bypassed the fresh produce on their way to the processed and convenience foods. Their claim of being in a food desert was predicated on the fact that they had to travel something like 15 minutes to get to the store. Unbelievable.

When the particular family was asked why they bypassed the produce, the mother actually admitted that she'd never noticed it. The produce section was huge. This tells you everything you need to know. Stores give up on fresh produce because no one in those areas wants it. Businesses respond to demand, after all. If there was demand there, they would be selling it.

 

The family farm is well stocked. I'm talking about my house in town.

 

Yeppers. That about covers it. It’s a combination of ignorance and desire to consume unhealthy food.

 

One of the major factors contributing to "food deserts" is food pantries/food banks.

Liberals are so enamoured of virtue signalling by handing out free food to people in inner city neighborhoods that they set up and fund large-scale food banks, and the local grocery stores have no hope of survival when their competition is giving it away for free.

 

UPS delivers the majority of the food I eat right to my door.



It's pretty ridiculously expensive, but it's a price I'm willing to pay to eat good food, and avoid the shopping hassles.

 

I seriously doubt ignorance plays any part.

For me, it all comes down to laziness.

 

You know you can get the ingredients delivered from your local supermarket, and cook this stuff yourself right? Are you sure it's just to avoid shopping hassles? ;p ;p

 

I don’t know. The member who posted the link here on food deserts once told me it isn’t diets high in refined carbohydrates that leads to obesity in the US. No. I was informed it’s sugar.

The understanding of the role of nutrition on health in the US is almost nonexistent. Our government historically advocates for very unhealthy diets. The war on fat drove people from things like buttered cooked carrots and scrambled eggs to corn syrup infused pasta sauce etc.. The only thing left that tasted good when the war on fat and cholesterol commenced was simple carbs, so that’s what people ate. It’s not all the fault of consumers in the US.

Of course we all have the freedom to educate ourselves so ignorance isn’t an excuse either. And it is certainly easier to open a bag of chips and a cola than to steam some veggies and cook rice and beans. Of course the easier option is more expensive (contrary to the food desert hypothesis) but as you say it’s easier for the lazy.

 

To be fair, he was half right! Obesity is a result of too many calories and too little exercise. Where the calories come from is less of an issue than how many are involved, and how many are burned off via movement. Throughout most of human history, the vast majority have existed on a high carb/low protein diet - and obesity barely existed. Societies which still live on that diet remain far less affected by obesity - even if they eat mostly refined carbs and loads of sugar. It's the cultures which dramatically increased their protein/fat intake in the 20thC which have problems with obesity.

Meantime, the people who walk past the fresh produce (and no doubt also past the brown rice & lentils) to grab meat, cheese, frozen foods and soda, know full well that their choices are bad. Their purpose is to avoid cooking from scratch, and to secure the calorie dense foods which provide 'satisfaction' as quickly and easily as possible.