Investigating the Jan 6 th Uprising.

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  1. Egoboy

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    If you had the slightest clue was the "Star Chamber" was, you'd feel much more prepared to not say dumb stuff like that...

    What happened to you?? You used to be the reasonable semi-MAGA on here...
     
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    Maga is very reasonable, it’s astounding there are those who disagree. I think you are projecting quite a bit.

    The reality is, the things you believe are untrue, the policies yiu advocate for are ineffective, and those politicians you support resemble the impression you have of those you hate.
     
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    You are projecting, there are valid reasons to question the election. It’s the left that makes political standpoints based on feeling. “You are basing your opinion on statistics and not humanity”….lol that’s a democrat argument.
     
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    I mean, even you so much as a page ago stated that they didn't show connection, because alot of what's been revealed is already known. We know how this is going to end. If they believe a crime has been committed, they should stop the tv shows and give the referral to the AG Garland. If they're finished their investigation then the committee doesn't have a purpose.

    It's not about a political allegiance I don't have, it's about a dying House of Representatives, an unhealthy political body and the surgeon butchering this operation is the Madam Speaker. She now resides in a House where members target other members, that's on HER watch.

    Our 'functioning democracy'(as much as I LOATH to call it that) is weakened because of this dysfunction in the House of Representatives. If Trump is a knee-gash wound, then this pathetic excuse of political actors in our age keep reopening and reinfecting the wound.
     
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    To your last point, you could also argue it is trump that keeps pumping out the poison by continuing to insist he won the election, and the committee is trying to counter that, hence the public hearings. I don’t doubt there’s a good deal of politics in it too, but I think there are valid reasons to do what they’re doing.
     
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    It’s a nothing burger committee on a nothing burger issue that is going no where.
     
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    Sorry, your feelings don't trump reality.

    Your boy lost. Got his ass kicked.
     
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    But the vast majority of Americans already accept that Biden won the election. Who are they trying to convince at this point, themselves? If the point is to mute Donald Trump, then we have experience in how to do this with other 'crazy old uncles', we ignore them. Yes, literally ignore them. 'Truth Social' barely has the attention of maybe 1/10th of the citizenry. The more he's ignored and ostracized, the more we can move from this period in time.

    Since it is so obvious, the question to ask is: Why haven't we done this? They'll give you some 'patriotic' 'defend democracy', etc bunch of drivel but I'll bypass that to get to the root of the matter: They've also confessed to the fact that he could run again and god forbid if he wins. Apparently they don't have the political acumen to out debate or manuever him, so this is their 'way' of doing so.

    But forget him for a moment, that they feel this is the only avenue available to them is a damning indictment on the political system as a whole. It points to a lack of capacity that grows ever more apparent!
     
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    And the vast majority of Americans want Trump to face consequences for his crimes. If these hearings do nothing more than making sure traitorous Trump can never run for office again, that's a win.
     
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    Most polls show about 70% of republicans don’t believe Biden is the legitimate president. So the problem is much bigger than you think.
    https://www.poynter.org/fact-checki...licans-falsely-believe-stolen-election-trump/
     
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    See, the word 'legitimate' there can be encompassing. Of that 70%, let's say 30% of those(this is a liberal statement in my view) believe the Trump interpretation of that(ie: election fraud). What does legitimate mean to the other 40%? Well now that Democratic sources aren't even denying dementia, that should tell everyone everything they need to know. He is a political puppet. A properly elected puppet, but a puppet nevertheless.

    And everyone knows he's a puppet. His cabinet was handpicked for him, it was picked on ideological premises, not on candidate quality, etc. Even Democrats, secretly know he's a political puppet. We took out the 'Russian puppet', for an actual, docile, incompetent American Puppet!

    So he's not 'legitimate' as in, he's not legitimately capable of being president.
     
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    Projection. Simply pointing out the reality of the situation.
     
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    No, the polls are about who won the election- they think he’s not the legitimate winner, is what the article says. Even if you were right and the figure were only 30%, let’s say that means possibly 10% of the population as a whole believing the previous election was usurped. That is a huge problem.
     
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    The DOJ can run with criminal charges anytime they want.... this committee still has more to say and show.

    I'm not 100% sure they linked T**** with the fake elector scheme to a criminal level.... it's an illegal scheme, and Rudy and Eastman, and ANYBODY who signed one of those documents could be charged tomorrow, IMHO, but I haven't seen T**** 100% tied to it...... yet**

    ** If I'm missing anything here, anybody can correct me.

    But I also feel T**** could have been charged for election official pressure in January 2021, and I said so at the time. I've always felt the Raffensberger call will be his downfall, whether in state or federal court, because it's all right there for anybody to hear (should one want to hear it).

    Stunning it took Georgia over a year to even start addressing it...
     
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    Sorry, your feelings don't trump reality.

    Your boy lost. Got his ass kicked.
     
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    No small task... lot of territory to cover there...

    Since we watched a hearing today around the harassment of election workers, this is appropriate and very welcomed news..

    SNIP
    A Nebraska man has pleaded guilty to making death threats against Colorado’s top elections official in a what officials say is the first such plea obtained by a federal task force devoted to protecting elections workers across the U.S. who have been subject to increasing threats since the 2020 presidential election.

    Travis Ford, 42, pleaded guilty in Denver federal court to sending threats to Secretary of State Jena Griswold on social media. Griswold is a national advocate for elections security who has received thousands of threats over her insistence that the 2020 election was secure and that former President Donald Trump's claims that it was stolen from him are false.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-pleads-threatening-colorados-top-192146665.html

    Threats AIN'T free speech, folks...
     
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    And that is a matter of the DOJ not a partisan propaganda show. It is unconstitutional for Congress to have committees whose purpose is to find crimes or otherwise to merely disparage private citizens and especially for political purposes. Talk about becoming a banana republic.
     
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    No, off with his head if he is proven guilty.
     
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    Oh please BG. I bet you watched or listened every damn day when Congress did the same to Bill Clinton over a blow job. So just stop with your nonsense.
     
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    English please.

    Yeah, like "you've gotta fight like hell if you're gonna save your country". You mean that kind of encouragement?
     
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    Bullshit. You're squirming and dancing to come up with opposition where there is none.
     
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    Then you haven't been listening and you're rendering yourself irrelevant.
     
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    Pleading guilty IS proven guilty.... just without the cost and effort of a trial...

    And I don't envision Colorado uses the guillotine...
     
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    You are projecting, that is not my fault.
     

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