Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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    Yep Jenny....I don't know where some posters on this forum get their news from. Outer space. For example, delusional post about the Snake Island. The Ukrainianians did attack again, and got battered Failed. There are multiple cauldrons forming in Donbass, thousands of Ukrainians soldiers are about to get encirlced and most likely erradicated. ..

    "It should be noted that the estimated number of pro-Kyiv troops surrounded in Severodonetsk is about 2,500. Together with the Zolotoe group, this is 4,500 fighters encircled in this sector of operations. This number is close to that, which neo-Nazis from the Azov battalion and allied formations had in the Azovstal plant industrial area in the late stages of the battle of Mariupol.

    Attempts of the Kyiv leadership to organize counter-attacks to de-block its forces in these areas will likely lead to only increase in the number of troops trapped around Lysichansk, Bakhmut, Slavyansk and Kramatorks. However, this is one of the most likely scenarios as Zelensky & Co tend to make decisions that would have larger PR effect. And what could be better than repeating the ‘Mariupol case’ just in another area? Thus, MSM and Western diplomats will have a lot of opportunities to blame and shame the Russians under made-up pretexts.

    Another option of the Kyiv government is to organize a large attack on Russian positions in the south – i.e. in Kherson and Mykolaiv regions or in Zaporizhzhia Region – using fresh formations created in the west of Ukraine and supplied with NATO weapons. This move will not allow to destroy pockets in Severodonetsk and Zolotoe but would threaten Russian supply lines from Crimea."
     
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    its....Mad Max IV...."The Day of the Orc Slayers"

    ...go get em tiger....

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    The best business in Kiev right now the funeral business. You can make fortune.

    Ukraine's BIGGEST SECRET: Massive numbers of dead! Fresh new cemetery in Kiev is operating...

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/dif14KoXW3JR/
     
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    Neither did Obama, because Congress issued an apology and America has moved on. Only the racists and xenophobes in this country and abroad have a problem with that.

    Said the revisionist "historian" who claimed that America was "the big dog in the slave trade" and supports the NaZi war criminals in Russia. :blownose:

    Way beyond comical....
     
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    Can't be true. Zoomie told us the Ukies were approaching Kherson! :roflol:
     
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    iknow, that's why Isaid "no" president has apologized for slavery.
     
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    Get the feeling that Russia is going to utilise all of its military capability while defending it's homeland. A far cry from travelling thousands of miles from home in order to subdue (massacre) local beligerants in new founded colonies in South Africa as the British empire did with their newly designed gatlin guns.

    Let's hope Russia can provide some of these heavy weapons to African leaders so they won't have to be at the mercy of NATO aggressors.
     
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    Everyone ought to listen to the interview starting at 4:11.

     
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    I was reminded of the improvised combat vehicles seen in the Terminator movies.

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    More reports on twitter that Zolote has fallen, even pro Ukrainian ones. In a few days we will see how many troops retreated or got stuck and will have to surrender.

    This opens up Russia attacking Lysychans'k from the south and surrounding it along with what left of the resistance of Severodonetsk without doing a river crossing. We will either see a giving up of those two cities or a protracted siege resulting in the loss of some pretty battle hardened Ukrainian troops. I would think they would retreat and give up the area to fight in a more defensible location a few miles to their west.
     
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    I'm getting much the same info. This guy that does the video says 800 Ukrainian troops refused to rotate back in to the meat grinder. Looks like a collapse in the Donbas soon.

     
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    The baltic nations know how to stand up to a bully.
     
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    It's hard being a Russian these days.
     
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    Thee Russians will come to regret this in many ways.
     
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    The author forgot the seeding of the controversies around gender identification which will create further social division and allow extremist religious groups à louder voice, and the little elf which whispered into Putin's ear that he should launch à war which will further disrupt commodity access and further fuel inflation, not to mention energy costs, all in order to divert our attention from climate change.
    The conspiracy just goes on and on.
    Dunnit?
     
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    It might not be a complete collapse, but it will surely change the situation in the Donbass in favor of the Russian's. It will mean they can finally bypass the 8 year Donbass defensive line and eventually attack from the flanks of those defensive positions.

    Concerning the cutting off of Lysychans'k, Ukraine will be able to defend an encirclement for a while and Russia will have to slow grind to take the Severodonetsk industrial area and for the city of Lysychans'k. But when they are cut off from supplies the Ukrainian's left to defend by order or volunteer will be inevitably doomed once everything runs out.
     
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    Why no link? Worried we will find out that it is from Southfront, a Russian propaganda site? You are very quick to accuse others of using propaganda, and here you are just spewing up stuff straight from the Kremlin.

    Explains so much.
     
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    Was I talking to you? No. I was talking to Jenny. Anyway my sources proved to be right when it comes to Mariupol and your sources abysmally failed. For you, I have a Swiss general as a source. Much more experienced than you. When it comes to that part of the world, Eastern Europe/Ukraine, his credentials are impeccable. Unlike yours. It's clear that Washington DC policy makers forced Ukraine into this conflict.

    The military situation in Ukraine, as seen by an ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence

    https://www.riotimesonline.com/braz...x-member-of-the-swiss-strategic-intelligence/

    "So, to compensate for the lack of soldiers, the Ukrainian government resorted to paramilitary militias…. In 2020, they constituted about 40 percent of the Ukrainian forces and numbered about 102,000 men, according to Reuters. They were armed, financed, and trained by the United States, Great Britain, Canada, and France. There were more than 19 nationalities.

    These militias had been operating in the Donbass since 2014, with Western support. Even if one can argue about the term “Nazi,” the fact remains that these militias are violent, convey a nauseating ideology, and are virulently anti-Semitic…[and] are composed of fanatical and brutal individuals."

    The Outbreak Of War

    Since November 2021, the Americans have been constantly threatening a Russian invasion of Ukraine. However, the Ukrainians at first did not seem to agree. Why not?

    We have to go back to March 24, 2021. On that day, Volodymyr Zelensky issued a decree for the recapture of the Crimea, and began to deploy his forces to the south of the country.

    At the same time, several NATO exercises were conducted between the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea, accompanied by a significant increase in reconnaissance flights along the Russian border. Russia then conducted several exercises to test the operational readiness of its troops and to show that it was following the evolution of the situation.

    Things calmed down until October-November with the end of the ZAPAD 21 exercises, whose troop movements were interpreted as a reinforcement for an offensive against Ukraine. However, even the Ukrainian authorities refuted the idea of Russian preparations for war, and Oleksiy Reznikov, Ukrainian Minister of Defense, states that there had been no change on its border since the spring.

    In violation of the Minsk Agreements, Ukraine was conducting air operations in Donbass using drones, including at least one strike against a fuel depot in Donetsk in October 2021. The American press noted this, but not the Europeans, and no one condemned these violations.

    In February 2022, events came to a head. On February 7, during his visit to Moscow, Emmanuel Macron reaffirmed to Vladimir Putin his commitment to the Minsk Agreements, a commitment he would repeat after his meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky the next day.

    But on February 11, in Berlin, after nine hours of work, the meeting of political advisors to the leaders of the “Normandy format” ended without any concrete result: the Ukrainians still refused to apply the Minsk Agreements, apparently under pressure from the United States.

    Vladimir Putin noted that Macron had made empty promises and that the West was not ready to enforce the agreements, the same opposition to a settlement it had exhibited for eight years.

    Ukrainian preparations in the contact zone continued. The Russian Parliament became alarmed; and on February 15 it asked Vladimir Putin to recognize the independence of the Republics, which he initially refused to do.

    On 17 February, President Joe Biden announced that Russia would attack Ukraine in the next few days. How did he know this? It is a mystery.

    But since the 16th, the artillery shelling of the population of Donbass had increased dramatically, as the daily reports of the OSCE observers show. Naturally, neither the media, nor the European Union, nor NATO, nor any Western government reacted or intervened.

    It would be said later that this was Russian disinformation. In fact, it seems that the European Union and some countries have deliberately kept silent about the massacre of the Donbass population, knowing that this would provoke Russian intervention.

    At the same time, there were reports of sabotage in the Donbass. On 18 January, Donbass fighters intercepted saboteurs, who spoke Polish and were equipped with Western equipment, and who were seeking to create chemical incidents in Gorlivka.

    They could have been CIA mercenaries, led or “advised” by Americans and composed of Ukrainian or European fighters, to carry out sabotage actions in the Donbass Republics.

    In fact, as early as February 16, Joe Biden knew that the Ukrainians had begun intense shelling of the civilian population of Donbass, forcing Vladimir Putin to make a difficult choice: to help Donbass militarily and create an international problem or to stand by and watch the Russian-speaking people of Donbass being crushed.




     
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