The fear of losing democracy

As though some old bag who almost bought her way into the presidency.... Is "democratic".

Democracy is highly overrated anyways.

When people say the word it's like they're talking about God on top of the mountain or something

 

According to him Trump is the devil.

But I guess you have to wake up in the morning and have something to hate.

 

It sounds like someone has certainly been drinking the DemocraticKKK Kool-Aid

 

He asked what the violation is/was.

To be sure, I would have preferred that they had voted on Garland's nomination. Just wasn't quote cricket to deny him a vote.

 

Some old grifter conning his way in to the presidency without getting a majority of votes surely isn't democratic.

 

But he was your President and the economy did not suck like it does under this moron who only makes excuses

 

Although in principle I agree with you, given his judgements as AG I'm glad he didn't get close to the highest court in the land.

 

You don't like our Constitution?

 

Not really, the cautious, deliberative approach makes for a good judge, but it's not ideal for a prosecutor in an existential crisis.

 

*sigh*

 

Trump took the roughly 2% GDP growth Obama left him, temporarily juiced it with a deficit spending fueled tax cut for the rich, and then saw the economy head back to trend growth before he botched the government response to COVID.

 

Oh, no argument there.

 

Do you think maybe he might disagree that we're in an existential crisis?

 

I would only agree with that if the same were held to be true of the left. They tried every trick in the book after the 2016 election to overturn it, right from the get go to years afterward. Democrats have tried to take over democracy numerous times and yet only Trump or his followers are called out on it. Democrats are always saying that elections aren't fair. Democrats say things that causes their followers to go too far but Trump is the only one called out for it. There is a double standard. Democrats can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it and are not called out for it but Trump? No, Trump is called out for every little thing, even if the left have to lie, exaggerate, or take things out of context. If you can't agree with that, then I won't admit one side does it if the other side won't admit that both sides do it, all the time.

 

He obviously wouldn't say it, but he has hinted in that general direction.

 

Did they violently attack Congress on Jan 6??

Did they gin up fake electors? (That's going to come up in a future hearing)

Did they pressure state election officials?

Did they pressure the VP to not do his job on Jan 6?

You know all that, so why the hell did you say what you said... (note the lack of a question mark)

 

The initial protests of the dems after the election were toothless: objections to electors not signed by a member of the Senate, which were rejected by Biden. I still completely disagreed with the tactic. It was childish and counterproductive. Were there more objectionable tactics at that time? I'm not aware, but tell me what I missed.

I honestly don't agree with the assessment I hear a lot that the dems were trying to overturn the election with Mueller and the impeachments. Yes, they really hated Trump, they really wanted him gone, some of them lost their minds over him, but that doesn't mean the issues they pursued were necessarily cynical. Without relitigating the questions, I thought there was a kernel of something in Mueller (who didn't exonerate Trump, for all Trump says), more than a kernel of something in Trump's 'perfect call' with Zelensky, and obvious substance to the 2nd impeachment. That's my honest view. I find Trump abhorrent, which obviously will colour my view to an extent, but it doesn't stop me recognising when people are peddling BS about him. I do agree there was a huge over-sensitivity to anything Trump said as president, also in the MSM, but often I thought there was a reason to react. Trump is neither the devil nor Jesus, but in my opinion he's a very flawed man who can't help but lash out at anyone who gets in his way, and blame anyone but himself for trouble he finds himself in. He really does seem to me to have the emotional maturity of a kid, and that was very problematic for a president. His behaviour at the end was a vivid confirmation of that.

 

Hell, Bernie repeatedly called for a revolution and one of his followers responded by going to DC and shooting up Republicans. That's worse than Jan 6th. Where was the investigation of Bernie for inciting an insurrection? Where are the investigations of current prominent democrats for inciting violence against Supreme Court justices? You know, the same Supreme Court that is one of the hallmarks of our democracy?

 

You are babbling.

None of that is worth responding to, but I will point out that Bernie has always rejected violence. It's almost as if you don't know enough to be able to talk about this and make sense.

 

After the 2016 election Jill Stein (who literally had no chance of winning) called for a recount in some states for Hillary to try overturning the election. The recounts should have never been allowed since Jill Stein had no chance of winning.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...-jill-stein-s-election-recount-effort-n688601

Democrats also tried funny business with electors prior to the election being certified.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/democrats-electoral-college-faithless-trump-231731


Several more ways Democrats would not accept the 2016 election results:

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-democrats-object-more-states-2016-republicans-2020-1561407

https://cnsnews.com/article/washing...yer-dems-tried-overturn-2016-election-results

https://thepostmillennial.com/flash...kin-tried-to-overturn-2016-election-of-trump/

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/12/17/how-democrats-attempted-a-2016-electoral-college-coup/


None of these even takes into account Hillary & Co planting unsubstantiated rumors about Russian collusion and lying to courts and the FBI about it all, all in an attempt to undermine the 2016 election.

 

And Trump also called out for Jan 6th to be peaceful but that is usually edited out, including by the Jan 6th kangaroo committee.

 

I take it you haven't watched the hearings..

Thanks, best laugh I've had in days.

 

It's a magnificent document but it's not perfect. Anything that lets someone like Trump become President needs work somewhere. I think the EC is dated, unnecessary, dangerous and needs to go.

 

So who are you annoyed with here? Who allowed the recount to go ahead that shouldn't have?

Oh yes, I remember that now. That was really shameful. The other links you give are other ways of looking at the same stories (including elector objections) but I will give you that this example here is on a level with what Trump was trying to do - not just protest, but actually overturn an election.

It's very hard to get to the truth of this kind of thing so I don't have anything to comment on it.

 

No, I wouldn't watch a kangaroo court or investigations. But, I did hear that they conveniently edited out Trump calling for the protests to be peaceful and I did hear that even the kangaroo court has said that they will not be referring Trump for any criminal charges.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ays-deceptively-edited-video-of-capitol-riot/