The fear of losing democracy

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  1. kriman

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    How about a document that allows Biden to become president? His only qualification was that he is not Trump.

    The reason for the EC is just as valid today and when written. It keeps the larger states from walking all over the smaller states. We are called the United States which means that all states have equal representation in one congressional house and representation based on population in the other.
     
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    Just saying, the democrats and the lamestream media are huge hypocrites for going all out after Trump while ignoring everything democrats have done for years. They have a long history of not wanting to accept election results and doing things to try overturning elections.
     
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    Yes, much of the MSM is biased left. Fox etc are biased right. Is there really much difference?
     
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    Yeah it wasn't a good label. Technically it started acronym because LGBT can't be said as a word like SWAT or laser.

    It's just four letters ripped together for 5 or 20 depending on who you ask.
    well if I really want to win I'll say be winning is good for democracy and if I lose that's anti-democracy.
    I think the left just went completely bananas after the oberfel decision. Because the fight for equality was over but it could never be over because of it it's over that we don't have the evil homophobic transphobic racist white supremacist contingent that we're always complaining about that never seem to do anything. The Democrats really are stuck in the Civil Rights era despite that on being a right left issue. Are they really like the idea of fighting for a depressed minority but they can't find one they just make one up.
     
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    No. There isn't much difference. That's why I try to avoid biased media from both sides and try finding the truth myself. It's usually right out there in plain sight if you aren't too blind and biased to see it.
     
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    Where do you look? Do you mean primary sources, kind of thing?
     
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    The hearings are mostly Republicans yakking...

    You aren't paying attention to them to escape the cognitive dissonance...

    Which means the irony is epic, when you say the truth is in plain sight.

    Ever hear of Masha Gessen? She predicted that Trump would do this years ago, shortly after he was elected. But then she studies dictators and authoritarians, and got to see Putin becoming a dictator up close and personal.
     
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    Biden served 30 years as a Senator and 8 as a Veep, He is possibly the most qualified President we have ever had.

    Without looking, name your State's Lieutenant Governor? Again, without looking, does your state even HAVE a Lieutenant Governor? What is your State's flower? song? main product? Would you DIE for your State? like they did in the ACW
    States are fictions, provinces, administrative conveniences with no real meaning or existence since the Civil War. We are AMERICANS and that's how we live and vote for a President who is supposed to represent us ALL not just the people whose States had majorities that voted for him

    The EC was originated at a time when it took weeks to get all the votes in, and before political parties even existed and were being warned against.

    It was NOT originated to correct abuses inherent in democracy, that is the function of the Constitution itself
     
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    Unfortunately, I often have to read between the lines on the mainstream media, which leans left. I totally and almost completely ignore known biased media on both sides. If you pay attention, you can often find facts in various places, including the left leaning media. Often they will give 10 seconds time to something but not go into detail about it while they then go into detail for prolonged periods on something that benefits the left, while trying to bury the 10 second item. Let's use the NYT as an example. They will use their first several main pages to go into massive detail about something which helps the left and then have a very short article short on details buried deep in the paper about something that might benefit the right but they don't play it up. I congratulate both the NYT and CNN for a recent apparent attempt to present the news more fairly and without a bias, but they both have a long way to go to actually pull it off.
     
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    I won't listen to kangaroo investigations where they knew the outcome they wanted before they started and plot to pull it off so that the end result will be exactly what they sought in the first place. All content which disproves their agenda will be squashed. No dissent or fairness will be allowed.
     
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    We used to have a different way of looking at that. Some people have thirty eight years experience. Others have one year's experience thirty eight times. It looked like Biden may have had one day's experience 13879 times. That is if he ever learned anything at all. That appears doubtful
     
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    It's kangaroo court, lad. Kangaroo doesn't get used to describe investigations. You could say kangaroo hearing, but that's still gonna be a little awkward.

    That's a lot of cognitive dissonance you're spraying around.
     
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    Who would have thunk it? Trump doesn't play well with others - even other "R"s. /smdh

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    It's amazing how many people in America want to be ruled by a dictator who doesn't believe in Democratic principles like the peaceful transfer of power.

    Of course, Hitler was also elected democratically.

    And, I mean, I'm not a Democrat.

    My last book was all about, "The Stupid Things Liberals Believe."
     
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    A kangaroo is a kangaroo is a kangaroo.
     
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    One of the many problems with you guys getting that far out of it; is that you wind up saying stuff like that.

    A kangaroos reach must exceed his grasp, or what's a metaphor...
     
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    In the daytime there is more straight news reporting on Fox than there is on CNN and the horrible MSNBC. CNN is trying to change.
     
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    Whereas the Man of Bronze was born knowing everything
     
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    Not every Repub exhibits the anti-democratic tendencies Trump endorsed candidates do. But those that Trump doesn't endorse are either quitting or being drummed out of the party for a lack of fidelity to the Big Lie.
     
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    Lawmakers on Jan. 6 committee ramp up their security as threats increase

    In the past 24 hours, there has been an uptick in the number of violent threats against lawmakers on the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, and all lawmakers on the committee are likely to receive a security detail, according to three people involved with the investigation.

    The committee on Tuesday held its fourth hearing, which focused on efforts by former president Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 election and the resulting political violence and harassment experienced by many of those who resisted.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/22/jan6-security-threats/

    As I said, violence is increasingly being used or threatened by the Right to settle political differences.
     
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    "anti democratic tendencies"

    Why has your speech become so Soviet sounding? Apparently "Our Democracy™" is not actual democracy.
     
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    Yes there is. Whatever claim Faux had to opinionated journalism, not propaganda, went out the door years ago.
     
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    Chris Wallace was pretty good; he was there until very recently (maybe I'm making your point for you). Brett Baier too.
     

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