"Hochul to call special session after SCOTUS gun decision"

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    archives Well-Known Member

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    No, common sense. New York didn't become one of the States with the lowest gun violence rates in the country by chance
     
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    Oh no, you going to tell us owning a gun is a God given inherent right again are you
     
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    New Yorkers murder each other with guns at roughly DOUBLE the rate of Utahns. "Lowest gun violence rate" my a$$!
     
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    Right, it is all those "disgusting actions" that has made New York one of the safest States in the country
     
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    That is not true, previously, if you could show proof of why you had to carry a concealed weapon in public, you were allowed, not asking a lot, and as she said, now the requirements will go beyond just showing proof, there will be additional hurdles to cross
     
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    On this issue it is in New York, they don't have one of the lowest gun violence rates in the country because of luck
     
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    Hey, at least he didn't ask me what race my squirrel was.....
     
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    The one requirement which prohibited the vast majority of New Yorkers from obtaining a concealed carry permit was the "special need" bullshit. That particular flavor of bullshit is no longer available to New York. They're being forced into the 21st century in terms of concealed-carry issuance. They may add layers of bureaucracy, but whatever they add, a CC permits will still be much more obtainable for the average New Yorker, because they're now obligated to be shall-issue. Your side lost. Trying to spin this as a win for the anti-RKBA orcs is just plain silly.
     
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    They don't have one of the lowest gun violence rates in the country, period. They're middling, at best. New Yorkers murder each other with guns at twice the rate that Utahns do.
     
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    It's about time Hochul showed an interest guns. There have been hundreds of murders in New York this year alone perpetrated by people with illegal guns. She hasn't lifted a finger to stem the illegal gun violence. She could fire the soft on crime prosecutors, or better yet, enforce Terry stops to snatch handguns from violent felons who carry on the streets looking for targets, but she won't do either. She's not interested the illegal guns, which are causing blood baths, she wants to take guns away from law abiding citizens who keep the peace. Gun owners who apply for carry licenses aren't a threat to anyone.

    The threats, in addition to the street thugs, are people like Chuck Schumer, who explicitly threatened Justices Gorsuch and Kavanugh. Standing on the steps of the Supreme Court House, he warned that they would "reap the whirlwind" if they didn't vote the right way on Roe v. Wade. Abortion, unlike gun ownership, is not an explicit right. The Democrats blew this one by allowing the case go up to the high court. They should have thrown in the towel. Now the Democrats have a big problem as gun rights have expanded nationwide. It's as if Joe Biden fell off his bike all over again.
     
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    Incorrect:

    States with the Fewest Gun Deaths
    The five states with the lowest gun death rates, in deaths per 100,000, are:

    1. Massachusetts (3.4)
    2. New York (3.9)
    3. New Jersey (4.1)
    4. Hawaii (4.4)
    5. Rhode Island (4.6).
    States with the highest rates of gun death:

    1. Alaska (23 per 100,000 people)
    2. Alabama (21.4 per 100,000 people)
    3. Louisiana (21.2 per 100,000 people)
    4. Mississippi (19.8 per 100,000 people)
    5. Oklahoma (19.6 per 100,000 people)
    6. Montana (19 per 100,000 people)
    7. Missouri (18.8 per 100,000 people)
    8. New Mexico (18.2 per 100,000 people)
    9. Arkansas (17.7 per 100,000 people)
    10. South Carolina (17.7 per 100,000 people)
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-by-state
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
    https://www.healthline.com/health-n...-the-highest-rates-of-gun-violence-and-deaths
     
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    She’s a tyrant
     
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    true, like ones privates, if they don't pull it out in public, no one sees it, no one cares
     
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    Honestly states should just stop following SCOTUS decision. The court is illegitimate at this point and public opinion on reinforces this.

    Good job Republicans!
     
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    LMAO... I'm 99.9% sure he didn't say they would "reap the worldwind", since that's not actually a thing....
     
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    Heavy on the radio rhetoric there, and as the topic post shows, New York, like the other six States effected, will have new gun restrictions back on the books addressing the quagmire the SCOTUS created
     
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    Lol She’s not gonna stop people from running out and now obtaining CCW permits. She has no power to do so.
     
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    "Gun deaths" and "gun violence" are not the same thing. The former includes suicides, the latter does not. Take suicides out of the equation, and New York shoots up the rankings, which is why your claims of "safety" are false.

    New York is not a particularly safe state, even from gun violence, as Buffalo highlighted recently.

    This is a quote from Alito's concurrence:

     
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    Hate to say it, but who would actually ENFORCE this decision in NY?? Or I guess who would ensure NY allows this decision in NY??
     
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    That bold part is going to be shot down on 1st Amendment grounds right off the bat.
     
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    He’s basically ignoring rural (red) New York to skew his statistics. NYC is a damn war zone and it’s chock full of Democrats.
     
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    Keep poking that bear.
     
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    Not really an answer, but it's also not really an answer...
     
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    What’s going to happen is that you are going to respect the decision. Your party has control of nearly everything, and it isn’t going to trample on the rest of us. Did you mother ever tell you that you can’t always get what you want?
     
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    SCOTUS has spoken! Live with it liberals.
     
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