Al Jazeera reporter killed during Israeli raid in West Bank

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  1. notme

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    And so you are conceding that the findings prove that Israel killed the reporter.
    Everything else -like it's not a court case- is totally not relevant.
     
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    Why did you make the KEY part of my post smaller font?
     
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    The claim that more Arab children die because they are "Human Sheilds" is unsupported nonsense that is completely false.

    The "Human Shield" Propaganda koolaid is fed to the raging masses in an effort to justify intentional slaughter of children .. seems you may have inadvertently ingested some .. :)
     
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    To be honest, I don't know if they are identical because it's been a while since I watched the You Tube and I can't immediately find my Google password.
    The fact remains that you asked for a more recent act of Israeli betrayal and this is just such an example.

    In addition to the videos, here's an article better explaining this additional Israeli betrayal(1)

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    Yes, all of the anti-Arab action is conducted by the government but I'm assuming that not all members of the Knesset are murderous and bigoted land thieves. There are many ethical, courageous and peace seeking Israelis that need to be considered.

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    Probably, especially if the quote is similar to other quotes made by the individual.
    For example:

    My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum. But don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.” -- Benyamin Netanyahu
    Netanyahu Unaware of Camera



    And:

    “Stupid pro-Israel Americans - have you heard these quotes from your hero Netanyahu? See below?”
    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20170819014914AA8hRm2


    “It is very good! It will be good for Israel!” Benjamin Nutandyahoo on the 9/11 attacks

    “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 2002

    “My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum. But don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.”— Benyamin "Bibi" Netanyahu

    “America is something that you can easily maneuver and move in the right direction. And even if they say something, so then they say something – so what? Look, I wasn’t afraid to maneuver the Americans, I wasn’t afraid to go against the UN.” Benjamin Netanyahu
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    Enjoy your weekend...


    (1) "Israeli Snipers Killing US Troops In Iraq"
    http://www.whale.to/c/israeli_snipers.html

    EXCERPT "According to Richard Wilson, Israeli sniping and IEDs are false flag operations. He says that on March 28, 2005, Americans arrested 19 Mossad agents who fired twice on a US Marine checkpoint. The Marines beat up the Mossad agents and tore off their Star-of-David necklaces. (The US media incorrectly said the agents were Americans.) The Mossad agents said they were employees of Zapata Engineering, which helps the CIA conduct interrogations, and also manages US ammo dumps and US motor pools in Iraq." CONTINUED
     
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    Human shield cool-aid.
    Child warrior.jpg
     
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    You were given the example of dropping 1000lb bombs -- this is not just one instance .. but many. Regardless .. I told you that one of the posts you linked to contained another example.. Perhaps try reading what you post in the future. The other example - one we have discussed in a number of posts .. the targeted assassination of the PLO leader right after agreeing to a cease-fire

    Condemnation by certain UN Nations in some circumstances should be taken with grain of salt .. the US for example. This does not make the condemnation of every UN nation a fraud. These condemnations have come from many nations .. and not all are frauds .. EU nations for example.

    but .. if you don't take anything from the "non fraud" nations seriously .. where is the info coming from that you do take seriously -- and here is where you crucify yourself.
     
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    Exactly -- post some pic of a kid in a war zone .. make up some nonsense narrative "Hamas using human sheilds" which the uninformed and uninterested raging masses will ingest .. and pretend that this justifies dropping 1000 lb bombs in heavily populated areas and the intentional slaughter of children and civilians -- because Palestinian Political figure they don't like is visiting.
     
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    Giftedone, being condemned by the UN is no big deal. You can have North Korea chair human rights and no censure of China over it imperial behavior, treatment of religion, occupation of Tibet, threats to Taiwan, a million Muslims in jail and no rights for average Chinese citizens.
    The UN is purely a political institution - control its agencies and you can do whatever you like.
     
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    Golda Mier says that war will continue until the Palestinians learn to love their own kids more than hate ours.
    These Palestinian kids are indoctrinated in school that Jews are the sons of pigs and monkeys, and Palestine is the Jordan to the sea.
    So kids are sent to the terrorist fence in the hope some will become martyrs. And behind them are the snipers, daring the IDF to shoot.
    Some Gazan children are sent to dig tunnels. Quite a few were buried alive. Others find their homes (like Lebanon) are staging grounds for rocket attacks on Israel.

    They do get a shock though when they go to Israeli hospitals and see so many Arab doctors and nurses, and get treated like human beings instead of cannon fodder by their own society.

    ps these kids are in Gaza. They are trained to be in harm's way.

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    Somehow you quoted that as MY post.
     
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    @Giftedone, I haven't yet heard you condemning Arabs for killing innocent Israeli civilians. And that's even after I asked you what you have to say about it earlier in this thread.
     
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    Calculating exact aid to Israel is different from what Israel actually costs the US. I think that anyone who is familiar with both is aware of the degree to which both are hidden in other legislation.

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    Yes, but only the Hasbara crowd is trained in how to avoid detection and paid by the Israeli government to distort the facts
     
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    Of course they are .. and Israel keeps proving that these teachings hit the nail on the head. Pigs and monkeys is a rather nice way to put it.. I can think of worse.. Human Garbage seems a better and more accurate fit. .. What else do you call those who delight in the slaugher of civilians and innocent children ... acting as if these are worth no more than Pigs and Monkeys... and what do you call those who support and apologize for these scum .. I don't know .. you tell me :)
     
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    Yes you have .. you just can't remember what is said from one post to the next .. making things up instead .. and then when outed .. jumping quickly to the next silly comment .. such as the one above .. desperate to paint others with your failings.

    It is you that lacks condemnation for killing of civlians .. Not I. It is you who tries to apologize and justify the slaughter of children and "innocent civilians" Not me .. So don't be trying to tar me with your twisted perspective mate ..

    I condemn all unjustified slaughter of women and children - You on the other hand only condemn it when it is "your side" who it is happening to.. Not only do you not condemn this slaughter .. you actively promote it .. trying to justify and apologize for it .. and then try to tar others with your misgivings...

    You speakout against international law .. argue against rules and law which prohibit such slaughter .. keep me out of your list of invitees to this twisted ideology .. I want nothing to do with it.
     
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    WHO exactly on the Israeli side 'delights' in the death of any child?
    WHAT exactly can Israel GAIN from the death of a child?

    We of course know full well who delights in the death of Arab children on the Hamas side - those who see these deaths as furthering their cause. And in the West those who weave an anti-Semitic political narrative.
     
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    Yes, it's a child
    And it's in a war zone, front line of Gaza.

    Now find a similar picture of children joining the fray in any other nation since WW2.
     
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    No matter how many evidence there is for the contrary, haters will never be convinced how wrong they are. Anti-Zionism is plain old antisemitism.

    "Israelis intentionally kill Palestinian children" is the modern incarnation of the centuries-old "Jews kill Christian children" libel.

    Most accusations against Israel stem from the pervasive antisemitism that is still flourishing even in the most civilized places on Earth.

    The poster you replied to supported Assad throughout the civil war there, even though his army massacred innocent Palestinian civilians in the refugee camps in Syria. He never explained why only Palestinians killed by Jews matter to him.
     
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    Quote from Pisa 'The poster you replied to supported Assad throughout the civil war there, even though his army massacred innocent Palestinian civilians in the refugee camps in Syria. He never explained why only Palestinians killed by Jews matter to him.'

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    It's difficult to condemn it when it's self-defense against enemy aggression. An enemy who doesn't recognise your right to exist and who's stated mission is your total destruction. If the Mexicans began firing rockets into downtown San Diego, killing hundreds of people, there would be no more Mexico after 24 hours when the US goes in and topples that regime. Would you "condemn" all of the Mexican civilians who lose their lives during that US response? I mean, this of course assumes that you would even support such a response, and I assume that you love your country enough to want to defend it against an enemy.

    Well that's the keyword right there: unjustified. That's pretty subjective wouldn't you say? It is likely that you and I have a different understanding of justice.

    Yeah, because it's a complete JOKE. I would have thought that you of all people would have little time for international law. You're against government overreach, but you're okay with global government? Okay!

    I have invited you into an ideology? I have no idea what an invitation to an ideology looks like! Someone can be invited to an event. But an ideology? Interesting!
     
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    What is this discombobulated pile of stuff that avoids addressing my comments ..

    You say .. "Who delights in the death of any Child" --- ?? Is this a rhetorical question ? You are the one who has been supporting justifying and apologizing for Israel's policy - which includes the slaughter of children .. and all the others on the Israeli side that support this policy ..

    What does support for Assad have to do with Israel's xenophobic policy of Slaughtering Children ? and your support for that policy ? did you think because Assad killed children .. its OK for Israel.. or that the situations are remotely comparable .. not that you would know .. having already demonstrated your lack of understanding of that particular conflict by calling it a "Civil War" ... despite being corrected numerous time.

    Did you have an argument anywhere in that mess ? other than clarifying "Who delightes in the death of any Child" -
    So far .. we have the Supporters of Israel's Policy .. and do note the difference between "Supporting Israel" and "Supporting Israel's xenophobic child slaughter policy" .. something you seem not to understand .. thinking they are the same.
     
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    Yeah, but I thought that you were specifically talking about apartment building strikes.

    Did this assassination result in civilian casualties?

    It should have been pretty clear to you that I was talking about the UN as a whole.
     
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    no doubt we have a different understanding of "Unjustified" .. you not understanding what the word self-defense means - and having no rule book by which "justice" can be measured.

    kind of a hopelessly lost proposition right from the get go.

    How is trying to Assassinate the Leader of the side you have been warring with for decades ... on the eve of the ceasefire you just negotiated with the guy .. "Self Defense"

    but this is pointless .. as you have no rule book .. anything is justified so long as it is your side doing it ..


    The complete joke ..is you conflating being for abiding by international norms / "rules" with being for Gov't over-reach and global Gov't ..

    The compete joke .. is you having no rule book by which to measure justice or self defense . and using the word "unjustified" and pretending to have some understanding of the word in context. There is no "Unjustified" in your world .. as for that to happen .. one has to have a measurement stick .. and you burned all yours.
     
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    Well, what I really asked was: what is your MOST recent example of significant betrayal?

    So then it is these "murderous and bigoted land thieves" who you surely hate.

    Is the above quote supposed to correspond to the video? Because Netanyahu doesn't say that in the video. But he does say some pretty damning things assuming that the subtitles are correct. Interesting video.

    So the only verified quote in the above is the one in bold which he says in that above video that you linked to, and that's assuming that the subtitles are correct.

    I started to read it, but then I came across the below. So do you really expect me to take it seriously? Surely not.

    "Mossad is a master at false flag operations, e.g., Oklahoma City, the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, the bombing of the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires, the July 7, 2005 London bombings, the 9-11 attacks in New York, the assassination of the Prime Minister in Beirut, the stoking of Muslim riots in France last year, the bombing of the Hassan al-Askari Mosque in Samarra, Iraq, etc"
    I hope that I've convinced you over the years that the MSM is nowhere near as pro-Israel as it used to be. You HAVE to know that rags such as the New York Times and the Washington Post are run by a bunch of mostly far left white-guilt ridden liberals who support the most liberal of causes. I doubt that you could find me any recent examples of the left wing media (which is the majority) being biased in favour of Israel.

    You too.
     
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    Try not to cut this out next time:

    If the Mexicans began firing rockets into downtown San Diego, killing hundreds of people, there would be no more Mexico after 24 hours when the US goes in and topples that regime. Would you "condemn" all of the Mexican civilians who lose their lives during that US response? I mean, this of course assumes that you would even support such a response, and I assume that you love your country enough to want to defend it against an enemy.

    Ismail Abu Shanab?

    How is the UN NOT global governance?
     
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    You didn't explain what the hell you are talking about.
     

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