American apathy: Weak ratings for Jan. 6 hearings reveal voter priorities

Why didn't you show the officers who were physical injured? Why didn't you show the one who had their skull fractured? How about the one electrocuted until they went into cardiac arrest? How about the folks chanting for the murder of Mike Pence?

 

It's someone else's job , I had one and worked many hours to retire young

 

Only 9% of Americans care about these hearings. That is a fringe left group that most likely suffers Trump every day of their lives.

 

The weak ratings don't indicate voter priorities. It indicates that voters don't want to sit around watching a boring hearing on TV when they can just read about the highlights.

Lets face it. Hearings are BORING. I'm about as anti-Trump as you can get and I haven't watched a second of them. And I don't need to. I can just read about them. And if I want to watch a particular segment, I can probably find a clip of it on the internet. I don't NEED to watch it in real-time.

I've said this before and been told that a bunch of people watched the Watergate hearings. Well, that was 50 years ago, before cable television and 100+ channels, before the internet, before smart phones and 24 hour news media. It was also different culturally in the U.S. The internet age hadn't revealed all the tomfoolery that politicians get up to so it was a much bigger deal when Nixon did what he did. This is a weak comparison at best.

None of that is to say that the Democrats aren't trying to milk this for all it's worth during an election year when they have little else to sell. But that's beside the point because nobody would be tuning in even if the economy was great. And that is because hearings are BORING.

 

It's not often that people so openly admit their own brainwashing. Explains most of your posts, though.

 

Then they should have not created so much debt.

 

This is the best answer they've got to do well in the midterms. They don't have any other baskets so they are putting all of their eggs in this one basket.

 

That wasn’t nice.

 

I agree with the part about it being Republican’s election to lose, but republicans manage to screw up things that seem impossible to screw up. They don’t play hardball like democrats do.

 

Have you ever watched his show? I also like Gutfeld.

 

I used to, back when he seemed like he might have some redeemable qualities. Those days are long gone. His idiotic conspiracy theories have gone from vaguely entertaining to dangerous. He's either dumb enough to believe his own bullshit or evil enough to spread it anyway. He's beyond redemption at this point.

 

I apologize. Maybe this will prompt you to stop saying things yourself that aren't nice. Maybe, as a start, you could remove "Let's go Brandon" from your sig.

 

You are saying this is a judicial proceeding and a matter of justice? You do know the constitutional protections for justice are for the accused? To protect the accused from undue process and persecution by government officials?

 

No need to apologize, we’re all pals here and I didn’t take offense, I just couldn’t think of a response.

 

Yes without counter testimony, cross examination, testing of evidence and statements, edited statements without context, preplanned questions and responses. A very slick one side propaganda production.

 

It isn't a criminal trial. Sorry, but when someone tries to overthrow our elections, it is going to look bad for them when that truth comes out.

 

It is a government inquisition in order to bring criminal charges. And exactly as I described. This is not a hearing which gives both sides and tests and challenges. It is pure planned theater.

How bad did it look when Al Gore tried to "over throw an election"? How about the Demsnduring both Bush43 electoral vote counts and Trump's. Stop with the canard that electors have never been challenged.

 

Those were recounts. Recounts. I supported Trump's recounts, bud. Stop with the canard that installing an unelected autocrat and just tossing out the election entirely is okay.

 

Gore? It started with his claims of tabulation errors in court, he choose that route instead of recounts. He summarily lost. That should have ended it. The SecState certified the election as was her plenary power ans Florida had it's slate of electors. Gore did not give up. He got the Florida Supreme Court to without explaination or the constitutional, state or federal, authirity to vacate that certification and then say he could have his constitutional selective hand recounts to try and overturn the election and they would certify it.

A BIG LIE and an attampt at a BIG STEAL.
And as notes Dems three times against Rep president elects have tried to overturn results in the Electoral Vote Count. So stop with the canards about election challenges.

 

He went for a recount due to material issues. He lost because the courts said there's a deadline for that to be finished . . . a deadline that you now oppose. And, yes, the court decision did end it. He gave up after he exhausted his court cases. Trump didn't. Trump's big steal failed. You've proven, repeatedly, that you can't even get the most basic facts about this issue correct. You used to claim that all Trump wanted was recounts. That was a lie you were fed. You've, thankfully, stopped repeating that nonsense after being corrected dozens of times.

Trump is the first candidate in history who tried to forego the votes of the states ENTIRELY. Those of us who think that the Constitution is kind of a cool thing are against that. You are fine with it.

 

He went to court based on tabulation and voter errors. His outlandish claims such as chads had stacked under his "hole" and when voters tried to punch they could not. He could have just gone for the statewide recount but knew he would lose so he tried the court route. Yes by doing so he started running into the certification deadline but he had already had his day in court and the court summarily ruled against him. He then did as I stated and got the FSC to overturn the CERTIFIED results and slate of electors.

He gave up when the FSC gave up after the SCOTUS asked TWICE where are you getting the authority to usurp the SecState and her certification. They could not produce that. His BIG STEAL ended there. But then when it came to the Electoral Vote Count several.Dems challenged that and tried to get the certified electors form Florida rejected.

So stop with the uninformed canards.

No he was not challenging all the states. He had his selective few just like the Dems previously.

 

Most importantly, the Department of Justice is paying attention.

 

There is no "just like the Dems" in this case. You really should stop trying to compare Trump's attempts to steal the 2020 election to anything any Democrat has ever done, because there is simply no comparison.

 

Gore pursued his legal options. He didn't try to "overturn" anything. And Trump wanted county-specific recounts as well, and you had no problem with that, so stop pretending you care about all recounts somehow needing to be "statewide." You even supported him negating the results of states where he had no standing court cases and hadn't even REQUESTED any recounts.

He wanted recounts (which you can't make up your mind about -- do you support them or not?) and the SC told him it was too late (which you can't make up your mind about -- do you support a deadline or not?), and he gave up when he lost.

He was losing by less than 2,000 votes . . . and that number had shrunk to JUST OVER 500 during the recount, which you argue shouldn't have ever existed. But you want recounts for your boy. Hell, you are okay with simply ELIMINATING the EC votes of entire states even WITHOUT a recount. Yes, that's a big steal based on a big lie.

No, not "just like the Dems previously." He wanted entire EC state votes ELIMINATED. Read the ****ing Eastman memo. But, hey, let's face it, no one capable of reading and willing to read still supports Trump's plot.

 

His lost his legal option. He then went extralegal with his outside the box legal theories and got the FSC to unconstitutionally vacate the ELECTION CERTIFICATION. It was OVER. He had them OVER TURN IT.

Trump wanted both recounts and his challenges no different from Gore. Laws differ in states as to those recounts and challenges, Trump was following in each. Gore was specific to Florida as I have cited. Doesn't matter what Trump did in his various states.

He wanted the election declared invalid in several counties based on the vote tabulation and voter errors. That was the course he choose to challenge. And he lost. The SecState certified the election it was OVER. He then hatched his BIG STEAL in getting the Democrat FSC to unconstitutional vacate the ELECTION CERTIFICATION.

The margin was 586 votes. And I was all for the recount. They had the statewide recount and Gore LOST. That's when he went to court. I want recounts where the state laws require them and if their is a legal challenge that would trip one. I want them under state law and state constitutions. Gore after losing in court went extraconstitutional by getting the FSC which has no role in elections to vacate the plenary power of the SecState to certify the election results. A BIG STEAL based on a BIG LIE.

YES like the the DEMS in their objections during both Bush votes and Trump they objected to states slate of electors demanding their votes not be counted. I didn't support what Trump was doing, I thought it a lost cause. Challenges during the EC voting counting have never worked and it wasn't going to work here. But it wasn't a CRIME.