FoxHastings said: ↑ Yes, many do....and why do you infer it's not so bad that women die because "not many " die??? What a callous attitude towards PRECIOUS LIFE. You seem to care nothing about rights unless they are yours... You have the staggering hypocritical audacity to post something like that when you CLAIM to give a damn about "precious life". Have you ever thought of thinking ? And here you and I are at the spot we always come to...You can't address my posts and start your Duck and Dodge Dance...
These are red herring issues. The issue falls on whether abortion is protected by the Constitution of the United States and of course it is not. Whether you love abortion or hate it, it's a state issue. That's where the laws should be made.
You are incorrect. This was a reply to a forum member that suggested we imprison parents for refusing to give their children the Covid vaccine. Those that support big government and more interference in our lives are not in a position to complain when they don't agree with the interference. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy.
this is not a partisan move, this is not a religious move, this is a well thought out analysis of our Constitution and body of Federal Law! So do you support the law prosecuting murderers for killing two people when they murder a pregnant woman? Doesn't really matter if you support it ir not, Bill Clinton signed into federal law a Federal law that supports it. It had an exception for a mother killing her own child included, but does that make logical sense? No! We cannot determine whether an entity is a human being or not simply by who wants to kill him or her! Deep down the left knows that their screetching about human rights is all bullshiite, but they want their vices protected.
This one was allegedly based on science determining a child in utero wasn’t a person way back in 1973. Has science not progressed dramatically since then? The notions Roe was based on have been proven wrong.
In my view, a fetus becomes a child when it can conceivably live, unaided by external incubatorial systems of one kind or another, outside the womb R v W ruled that it was what the third trimester? But, it's moot now, R v W was shot down.
Perhaps, but once you turn things over to the government, it doesn't matter what you think. I guess republicans will celebrate until Dems force them to take the Donkey Pox vaccine.
There are no laws which make it illegal to refuse a vaccination. Mandates always give a choice. And, if you must know, I do not support mandates where quitting one's job is the choice. The choice should be, 'get the vax or get tested once a month (if there is a pandemic or endemic. No pandemic or endemic, then I do not support mandates. I do not support school mandates if there are no endemics or pandemics. On measles, since it is so contagious, that one I support, but I would like to see the three vaxes measles, mumps, and rubella, separated and given at least 2 weeks apart and no vax before the age of 2, like it used to be when I was a kid ).
I have said many times the human in the utero is entitled to human rights as soon as it becomes human. But not before. That won't happen before 22 weeks. Make it 20, just to play it safe.
And this is where your position goes down in flames. A human child in utero is a human from conception. Scientifically, logically, in every way. 22 weeks was a politically motivated arbitrary threshold not backed up by anything scientific.
Legally a human being in utero at any stage of development is a human being with Constitutional rights.
Of course. Perhaps someone having an abortion can be forced out of school, employment and live under an overpass. While I disagree with both sides on these issues, at least the prolifers can show a loss of life in 100% of abortions compared to a risk of less than 1% for healthy people and children with Covid. .
Absolutely wrong! When a human being dies, we know that they are no longer a human being, so we bury them or cremate them, because there is no Cortical Activity (the brain waves measured with an EEG). Same happens at the "other end" of life. There is no human being before there are brain waves. Anyway.... I doubt very much you have the least bit of interest in science. I'm pretty sure your objections to abortion are purely religious. So I have no interest in wasting time explaining science to you. But it is immoral for people to impose their religious beliefs upon others. Which is what this activist Supreme Court just did.
You are scientifically and logically incorrect! All thresholds other than conception are arbitrary. I challenge you to find one biology book that states a human being begins at sentience. There isn’t one. I am constantly amazed at how little those who claim science is on their side actually know about actual science.
What vices would those be ? Remember , it’s the righties who legislate what people can do in the privacy of their own bedroom. It’s righties who keep getting caught having extra marital sex with their secretaries , male and female , on a regular basis.
Now it's up to the states. There will be some states that have been available all the way up until birth maybe even after it'll be some states where not allowed at all but Most states will probably allow it up to a certain point
Do they? Provide an example of “ righties” legislating what people do in their bedrooms ( an example from this century please). I don’t think Bill Clinton, Gary Condit, or any of the other infidelities that have made it to the news were “Righties”. Committing a homicide through abortion would be an example of a protected vice “ Lefties” cherish.
