The grizzly is growling

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    How do we know that? He doesn't even know where he is most of the time.
     
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    Just 5% call abortion top concern | Washington Examiner

    Abortion, the No. 1 concern in today’s media and politics, ranks nearly dead last among areas voters care about as they struggle with paying daily bills, soaring inflation, and interest rate hikes, according to a just-released survey.

    While the Supreme Court’s decision overruling the 1973 Roe v. Wade right to abortion has dominated today’s network and cable coverage, the latest McLaughlin & Associates poll said just 5% of voters call it a top concern.

    Just below abortion, at 1%, is reviewing the 2020 election, over which the media are also obsessing.

    By comparison, 54% cited the economy.

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    If you are referring to Democrat leadership and the DNC, that "sleeping giant" has been openly marauding over the country for about 14 years now.
     
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    Maybe Harry Reid and the Democrats shouldn't have blown up the filibuster? Dems have had Filibuster proof majorities, more than once, yet, not a single time did pass any of this national legislation of this position which you claim is widely held in this nation. Weird! It's almost like your claim is false or something.

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    "Women this and women that"? WTF? You think that women's rights are a matter that only biologists can ascertain?

    God! Can there be anything more pathetic than a right winger who has run out of excuses to trample on other people's rights?
     
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    Huh? You're actually not aware that the Supreme Court IS government? In any case, I wasn't just referring to the Supreme Court. State governments are also government. And in a fascist society, they make the decisions for you. Regardless of your rights.

    No there isn't. A majority is not enough to pass ANYTHING when a minority can block it.
     
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    100%!!! Yes! In a Democracy, Human Rights are NEVER subject to vote! You can't vote on who you are allowed or not allowed to marry. You can't vote on who can or can't vote for President. Or on who can be enslaved.

    It's amazing how difficult it is for right-wingers to understand how Democracy works. And this is what has led us so close to fascism.
     
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  8. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    And that right there is exactly why our country is set up the way it is: so the majority can't oppress the minority.
     
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    These posts, by anti-gunners, are hilarious
     
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    The very idea that "the Supreme Court is government" is the reason for Hodges yesterday. It's a fable brought to us via decades of political-judicial activism, which has reared its ugly head with a pro-conservative ruling making the other side mad. Let's be clear: The court system is supposed to be, but isn't separated from the political system, due to its 'supreme authority', which was very mistaken.

    Also, if we claim that for state governments then every government is inherently fascist.
     
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    Libs always shriek FACISM!! whenever rulings/policies don't go their way. It's amusing, in a "try not to stare at the intellectually impaired" kind of way.
     
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    I think you meant your will, not necessarily the will of the people.
     
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    Grizzly. Lol Like people are scared by likes of people like this…

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    Like it or not, that right there is a sample of the vast majority of your voting base.
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, it suggests that the current tyranny of the minority should end, and be replace with majority 'we, the people, one man/woman, one vote' rule democracy.

    That doesn't quell the house or the senate, but we are proposing more democracy, not less, and the reason for this is that the fears of the founders who created an EC to protect their rich white asses is no longer appropriate. 250 years has passed, and that doctrine just isn't working for 'we, the people'.

    Like I said, there is no idea than an idea whose time has come, and this hour, it's Democracy.

    That isn't lazy governance, democracy is the core principle of America.

    Oh, I know repubs like to poo poo that idea, well, the majority is going to poo poo them once it's made clear what their true objectives are, and that is becoming increasingly clear with their repeal of Roe and Thomas's invitation to bring cases so they can end gay marriage, sex they don't approve of, and contraception.

    Americans don't want to live in a right wing world that caters to rich people and pisses on everyone else.
     
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    Hahaha! Sounds more like the teddy bear is farting.
     
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    Pro lifers owe a big tip of the hat to RBG. Had she not been so narcissistic to keep clinging to the bench during Barry's tenure, it's doubtful the vote would have turned out this way.
     
  17. Patricio Da Silva

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    No one says it.
     
  18. Zorro

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    It's the Left's newest SCOTUS that claims that only biologists can define women, how did you miss that? Oh, you didn't? You are feigning confusion? Typical.

    I've trampled no ones' rights. If the national standard you demand, is as broadly popular as you claim, then pass it through our national legislature.
     
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    So what? Does nothing matter other than elections?
     
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    So this grizzly is going get it’s minions of twenty something bearded women and castrated chest feeding astro-turf and other malcontents and do what? They are nothing to worry about. How can they be? They are anti-gun remember?
     
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    It seems to me the grizzly is looking to eat you.
     
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    Roe vs Wade wasn't about your version of human rights. It was about constitutional rights. And the right to abortion isn't protected by the Constitution. It never was.
     
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    Should a Supreme Court, which is supposed to be aligned with the Constitution, be "in line with the will of the people?" Is it the Court's function to serve as a polling center and vote for policies based on popularity or the law?
     
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    They don't need guns to vote. States who ban abortion will, I believe, find out that independents are going to seek to reinstate it at the polls. Independents are the ones who decide elections, and most of them abhor prohibitions of all sorts.

    There are a number of states who had trigger laws in place to enact band automatically. I predict, over the next couple of election cycles, a number of them will reverse those laws, and a general trend of legalization will commence nationally.

    I think this is just another great excuse to send some entrenched career politicians out to pasture.
     
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    You're framing the statement wrong. It's not about 'function' it's about outcome.

    The court has become a political body. 6 of the 9 are conservative justices of whom five are picked by the Federalist society and they only pick ideologues, NEVER moderates, because they have a specific political AGENDA

    Prior to the nomination of Trump's three hard right leaning judges, no way in hell would have Roe v Wade been repealed.

    Sensible non ideologue judges (such as Garland) would have respected the doctrine of Stare Decisis.

    It was repealed because it was the OBJECTIVE OF RIGHT WING REPUBLICANS.

    They are not a DE JURE political body, but they are a DE FACTO political body.

    What that means is that it is not there to function to as a political body, PER SE, but their outcomes point inescapably point to the fact that they ARE functioning as a political body,

    Is this true in every case? No, but on all the KEY cases brought to the court by Republicans, the answer is irrefutabley YES.
     
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