What other rights will be taken away next now that Roe is gone?

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  1. Joe knows

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    You mean Thomas can actually read and understand what the constitutions purpose was for. It limited government, it didn’t give them powers they are assuming.
     
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    This ruling doesn't impinge on the other decisions. The point Thomas was making is that those other SC decisions were also incorrectly decided and should be revisited. I would agree with that although I'm unclear how that would happen since that would require another, for example, contraception case, to work it's way up to the Supreme Court, and I don't see how that would happen.
     
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    Vote them out if you don’t like their thinking.
     
  4. Cybred

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    9th says otherwise.
     
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    I'd love to hear more about abolishing contraception.

    Especially since Griswald vs Connecticut was a 1960's case that addressed 1850's-ish laws. Laws that only applied to two states by the time this case was heard.
     
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    Correct. And he makes clear that while the fiction of "Substantive" actually supports nothing, that does not mean that rights currently anchored there cannot be anchored in other provisions of the constitution, for example, the Privileges and Immunities Clause.

    Justice Thomas has been working toward this for a very long time. Writing the Privileges and Immunities Clause out of the 14th amendment was an error by the Court that enabled Blacks to be held in quasi-bondage for another 100 years after emancipation, this is a project near and dear to his heart. He has steadily been bringing this up in his decisions for years. This is no different. I saw where some clown claimed he was trying to end Black/White marriage, apparently this "expert" has never seen Justice Thomas' beloved wife of a lifetime.

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  7. Joe knows

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    The constitution does not permit the federal government authority over such matters. So if it did make it there and the authority was kicked down to the state (where it constitutionally should be) it wouldn’t hurt my feelings at all. Too much power has gradually, and unconstitutionally been stricken from the state. I support bringing states rights back in full.
     
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    The ruling just states the obvious. We live in a republic, not a democracy you can still kill all the babies you want in a different state.
     
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    Roe v Wade was an incorrectly reasoned decision. Blatantly self serving with not even an attempt to justify it under the constitution.

    Good move from SCOTUS.
     
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    We did "separate but equal" already, and I expect a sequel of that will be as successful as the Star Wars sequel trilogy. As in, not at all.
     
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    You do realize a federal ban on abortion is next? if not next year, then certainly the next time the GQP has a solid majority.

    Unless those other 27 states plan to secede, they will also be subject to such a ban.
     
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    This is what you get for trying to use the court to make laws.
     
  13. Zorro

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    Joe Biden like the dog that caught the car.

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    Yes I just can't imagine a circumstance in which those issues would again become a "case or controversy."
     
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    It won't be easy but I'll try to respond objectively to your diatribe.

    The constitution does not provide an implicit right to abortion. It says absolutely nothing about abortion either way which is why it is none of SCOTUS' business.

    Segregation was a SCOTUS declared right until it was taken away over 50 years later.

    Like abortion the constitution says absolutely nothing about marriage -- of any kind -- so it too is none of its business.

    Lawrence vrs Texas is on solid ground because of its perfectly clear due process and states' interest rationale.

    Loving Vrs Virginia is on solid ground because the 14th amendment was written specifically for blacks.

    Griswald Vrs Connecticut is not in real jeopardy because while the right to privacy is not specifically protected in the constitution, it is implied and easily inferred that it is protected. I know no one who wants to abolish contraception. And even if SCOTUS vacated Griswald that would not abolish contraception. It's unlikely that anything would change with contraception because I know of no state that wants to even regulate it let alone ban it.

    To the contrary, make no mistake that, at the federal level, states' control is the entirety of Republican interest.

    The overturning of Roe may be the beginning to a return to the rule of law as opposed to the rule of man.

    IMO there is still a crack in abortion in that some state laws might possibly be found to go against due process or not be in the states' legitimate interest.
     
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    Never in a million years.
     
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    SCOTUS has no authority to ban abortions nationwide as it had no authority to approve abortions. I suppose congress could pass a law but that seems infinitely unlikely.
     
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    So its ok for the sates to take away rights but not the federal govt.
     
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    What other rights will be taken away next now that Roe is gone?

    Abortion has never been a right. It has been a privilege. Another privilege we may lose is the ability to own and operate a gasoline powered automobile.
     
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    Source your claims on interracial marriage being overturned being discussed by senators.
     
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    Lol let’s think through what you’re saying when you talk about the “majority of Americans”.

    The majority of Americans which are concentrated in small areas in specific states. So let’s take abortion for example… Abortion will still be legal in places like NY and California. So those majorities you speak of will mostly live in areas where they will be able to access those abortion services.

    What you’re suggesting is that you think it’s appropriate that those people in NY and California still have abortion but you want them to be able to FORCE their ideology on people in Wisconsin and Florida and Alabama whose areas are MUCH more conservative.

    Whereas we are saying let the people in NY and Wisconsin and California and Florida determine for themselves.

    But WE are the fascists?? How do you figure that?
     
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    The States will not take anything away. The voters in those states decide. The SCOTUS is made up of UNELECTED OFFICIALS. How do they represent the will of the PEOPLE?
     
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    You can't take away what was never there.
     
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    Like when people claim govt is coming to take all our guns away? Did you accuse those folks of “fear mongering hogwash”? I’m gonna guess no.
    Things is, Thomas already indicated gay marriage, sodomy and contraceptions should be looked at. So not really fear mongering to claim those issue could get overturned.
     
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    Exactly...

    The fact that abortion regulations has been changed from the federal level down to the state level means the average American can vote and has an individual say on the elected officials on the issue's of abortion where they never had that option for 50 years because of the unelected judicial branch of Federal Government.
     
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