what are trump supporters afraid of?

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  1. independentthinker

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    I already posted links. Can't you read? You ignore the links.
     
  2. independentthinker

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    I get it. I really do. Orange man bad. You believe democrats can abuse their power to investigate everyone they don't like.
     
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    The number of bills is meaningless. The president could name a thousand post offices which is meaningless or pass one single bad bill which has some real significance.

    Biden did little to help pass the gun bill. It was primarily a compromise by congress.
     
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    Not in this thread you haven't. :roll:
     
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    Do you honestly think that the 1/6 investigation is all because 'we don't like Trump'? If so, there really is no point to further discussion on the subject. Facts, evidence and the law clearly don't matter to you. I could concede that I shouldn't be making an assumption about what matters to you, but that would require your admission that you haven't been following the information coming out since 1/6.
     
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    Nope. Actually achievements matter not a count of bills, which is directly related to partisan split in Congress.
    He got the tax cuts passed, Covid relief; Got a vaccine created in less than a year.

     
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    LOL. The 1/6 investigation is made up of all anti-Trumpers and they made sure the rules ruled out any defense of any kind. They made sure that the rules allowed them to investigate everything they wanted and to make sure that everything that didn't achieve that agenda would never see the light of day. Two examples are that Trump offered the National guard to beef up the Capitol for the protests and it was denied, and the left made sure that only Trump saying, "fight like hell" saw the light of day, while not only taking those words out of context but also making sure they didn't mention anything about Trump telling protesters to protest peacefully. Bottom line, when your ENTIRE investigation committee is made up of nothing but anti-Trumpers then, yes, the investigation is all about orange man bad.
     
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    ~ Apparently about 80% of them. Amazing ... :eyepopping:'
     
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    I cannot disagree, in all honesty. But it should be understood by you on the hyperliberal-Left that not all of us on the rock-solid Right are "Trumpsters". Personally, I wish so much that he would simply go down to Florida and enjoy being a billionaire for the rest of his life. We have MUCH better candidates among real Conservatives, and we need to bring them to the fore so that we can flush all the America-hating Leftists out of our government -- everywhere they contaminate the government of this nation!
     
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    What a joke. This crap is the same as Russia, Russia, Russia.....a big nothing
    Burger.
     
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    Actually "the rules" provided for 5 members from the minority to be appointed by Speaker Pelosi in consultation with the "Minority Leader". Speaker Pelosi rejected two of the "Minority Leaders" suggestions, the "Minority Leader" withdrew all 5 nominees and forbade his conference from participating.
    Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the Capitol
    https://january6th.house.gov/about

    IF tRumpublicans are dissatisfied with the makeup of the January 6th Investigative Select Committee they should take it up with Minority Leader McCarthy.

    The rules are written to promote a thorough investigation into the cause and what happened January 6th 2021 at OUR Capitol.
     
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    No. The "rules" were that only those in charge could make important decisions so that anything those 5 members from the minority wanted to do could be overruled so that only the testimony those in charge wanted could be presented and anything those 5 members wanted to do could be squashed and never come to light or even happen in the first place. Republicans weren't going to take part in what would ultimately be a sham investigation, where democrats could claim it was fair because there were 5 members from the monitory on the committee when, in fact, those five members would wind up being useless pawns used by the democrats.
     
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    Apparently you didn't even look at the link I provided, your claim is simply not true.
     
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    That's what I said: tax cuts for the rich was his only achievement. And he did NOT have anything to do with getting the vaccine created. Not only because Pfizer didn't use government help... at all, but because Trump was pushing for "miracle cures", while others were struggling to create the vaccine despite his obstructionism. And the fact that the best you can do is revisionist history is further support for my point.
     
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    I'm aware that you're not a trumpster. And I completely agree that Republicans have much better candidates. But you need to flush your own party free of fascists before we can consider Republicans a true alternative again. Right now, the party is dominated by fascists. And true conservatives have very little power to do anything within the party... much less in government.
     
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    It boils down to cultural anxiety and perceived lost of position. When people get to the point that they are willing to violate the rights of another citizen, that other person has been dehumanized and they are then justified in any behavior against them because they don't matter.
     
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    Except those tax cuts applied to almost 95% of people who pay federal tax - do the research.
    Bullshit. Total nonsense.
     
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    Just like trump did with obama.
     
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    Except the Obama "surge" was long gone before 2016. Oh, and the "Obama surge" was the worst post-recession recovery since WW II.

    Here' the DJIA in 2016 - see if you can spot the day Trump was elected:

    2016 djia.jpg
    And in the years following, including epidemic years, Trump's market gains over 11% compounded per year.
     

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