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Germany takes step closer to gas rationing

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  1. Moolk

    Moolk Banned

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    You are doggging your misrepresentation hole deeper and deeper lol
     
    Moolk, Jul 3, 2022
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    can't name even one other time can ya, Trump was the first President to push for higher prices at the pump for consumers

    trump did not want consumers having cheap gas prices
     
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  3. Moolk

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    Incorrect, more misrepresentation lol. Trumps gas prices were far better than Brandon’s, as was his economy.
     
    Moolk, Jul 3, 2022
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  4. Moi621

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    Moi621, Jul 3, 2022
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  5. FreshAir

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    yep, nothing but diversions, I knew you could not
     
    FreshAir, Jul 3, 2022
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  6. Moolk

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    You have nothing but misrepresentations. That’s not my fault.
     
    Moolk, Jul 3, 2022
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  7. FreshAir

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    still nothing.....
     
    FreshAir, Jul 3, 2022
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    Ditto
     
    Moolk, Jul 3, 2022
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    Governments have opinions and wishes but don’t organise coups as routine.
    “Moreover, in 1994, the leaders of the United States, Britain and Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum, in which they committed to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity and pledged not to use force against that country. That memorandum was key to Kyiv’s decision to give up nearly two thousand strategic nuclear warheads and the associated strategic missiles and bombers. This was a major victory for U.S. policy, and for nonproliferation. Moscow’s violation of this agreement is a strong disincentive for future nations to give up weapons of mass destruction.”
    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2016/03/18/the-obama-doctrine-and-ukraine/
     
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  10. FreshAir

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    we can see
     
    FreshAir, Jul 3, 2022
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    What kind of nonsensical claim is this? Gas prices were phenomenal under the Trump years. Jesus, dude. Do you point at the grass and argue that it’s blue and not green?
     
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    Nuh - uh !
     
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    And they went into negative numbers because of the Democrats and the coronavirus pandemic shutdown, as you well know.

    Could that be the Democrat's "solution" to this crisis? Another shutdown?
     
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    The Obama administration did not cause the Putsch.

    Pointing to a single low-level government moron is not even a sliver of evidence to support this.

    The Obama administration did not help Ukraine either.

    1. They told Ukraine to stand down and not oppose Russian aggression.
    2. In the end when Ukraine decide to defend itself against Obama's wishes, the Obama administration did not give any military assistance and any assistance they did give was dependent on allowing them to meddle in their politics in silly ways.
    3. A trickle of military assistance did not start going to Ukraine until Trump came to office.
    4. I do not completely fault Obama for not providing more assistance since the Ukrainian military was so small and disorganized at the beginning. He did start a training program for Ukrainians in 2015. This training was very important for getting the Ukrainian military ready for more advanced weapon systems.

    In an unusual turn of events, Biden actually has done quite a bit to help Ukraine.
     
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    The conflict does give them a convenient excuse to blame high oil prices and inflation on, to get the public to feel the high prices are "virtuous" and for a good cause.
     
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    and Trump was not happy with that and got them to lower supply during covid, then when covid ended, demand increased and the supply was not there... thus higher prices
     
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    you mean the Trump shutdown
     
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    I see, so gas prices aren’t Bidens fault, it’s Trumps fault. Well, what about the claim that Presidents don’t control gas prices?

    We can play this game all day long.
     
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    more Trump's fault than Biden's, but we all know most of the blame is on big oil

    only one President reduced supply during covid.. That was Trump
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    you think it's funny that Trump reduced supply and now we have a supply issue that is costing us more at the pump?
     
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    Perhaps it’s not just Biden’s fault? Gas prices all over the world are sky high because in a fit of foot stamping over Ukraine both the US and the European Union have decided to sanction oil imports from one of the world’s major energy suppliers and then blame them for not being reliable suppliers. Yes, I'm still trying to figure that one out myself!

    America has been importing large quantities of crude oil and petroleum products from Russia for decades and as prices now soar, it’s a classic example of supply and demand. We’re told that new green technology will save us and we’re going to find fossil free ‘sustainable’ energy supplies, but in Europe we’re already being warned that come winter we’re going to suffer, both economically and individually.
     
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    Well current US presidents are powerless. Current Russian Presidents have all power as do former US presidents. Do try to keep up.

    NEW HARVARD-HARRIS POLL: TRUMP IS THE MOST POPULAR POLITICAL FIGURE IN AMERICA. The key to understanding this is that all of the other political characters are more unpopular than Trump.

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    "Trump’s well ahead of both Biden and Harris in 2024 voting preference. Despite all the media efforts to tear him down, and build them up."

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    I'd rather see him as Speaker of the House in 2023, then rise to the Presidency in the event that Biden/Harris find themselves unable to continue.
     
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    @Zorro
    My post was about oil sanctions not the popularity of US Presidents.
     
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