We are forbidden but I ask what is cruel & unusual punishment. Simple question. Moi Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
Capital? Drawing and quartering? A process that is designed to prolong gross pain until the death is achieved. It should he free of any undue pain. Incarcerations. Withholding food and water. Extememe environments meant to cause physical or mental suffering.
Knowing that the J 6th committee will never give up on their delusions no matter how often they are proven to have lied.
A prominent Chinese billionaire has been sentenced to 18 years in prison, He was found guilty of "picking quarrels and provoking trouble https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58007515
Well I just saw someone suggest Newsome as president and AOC as VP. That sounds like cruel and unusual punishment to me.
trying to listen to joe biden form a coherent sentence, all by himself, without the help of que cards. lmao.
trying to listen to a Democrat use "logic", as they talk about how Abortion is Moral, and a woman's body is her own, and yet it's ok to force a needle in someone's arm against their will. one can only put up with so much of democrats hypocrisy.
The Supreme Court has defined what cruel and unusual punishment per the 8th amendment. For instance, in Solem v Helm, the Supreme Court held that the sentence may not be disappropriationment to the crime. For instance, getting life in prison for a traffic ticket would be an excellent example of cruel and unusual punishment. In Ingraham v. Wright, Supreme Court held unnecessary and wanton infliction of pain” constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. This standard was refined in Whitley v. Albers in which the Supreme Court stated that action that may seem like an unconstitutional “unnecessary and wanton infliction of pain” may be constitutional if the infliction of pain is done in a good-faith effort to restore discipline, rather than done maliciously to cause harm. In Estelle v. Gamble, conditions of prison confinement may be considered cruel and unusual punishment. This dealt with prison overcrowding as the primary condition, but it can include a lack of AC during the summer in places like Arizona or Texas and other similar conditions. It may include longer than necessary solitary confinement unless said solitary confinement meets the disciple's standard in Whitley v Albers. Generally, the death penalty is not considered cruel and unusual unless the method of execution is considered cruel and unusual such as the garrotte or drawn and quartering. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/cruel_and_unusual_punishment
our prisons are home to gangs, violence, and homosexual rape, all considered features by much of the law abiding populace. they define Extreme environments meant to cause physical or mental suffering.
True, but it is why we must look at the Supreme Court rulings on cruel and unusual punishment definition.
I don't believe the prisoners are meant to be terrorizing each other nornis that supposed to be part of the punishment. And no I don't think much of the populice believes it is supposed to.
US prisons are not as bad as some prisons in Peru, Singapore, Brazil, or even Columbia, just to name a few. In most state prisons and federal prisions, yes, there is a chance of violence. But prison officials will routinely perform contraband checks in all hours of the day, sometimes at midnight as well as when the prisoners are in they yard, like in state prisons. Are there gangs? Yes. Are they bad, serious, deadly, etc? Yes. But gangs got started when prisons began to desegregate in the 1950s amd 60s. Prior to that, you had seperate wards and minority prisoners a lot of times did not get the buckets for their water or waste, before toilets were installed. And when they were installed, they were usually last, after the desegregation was ordered. I'm not blaming desegregation here, but just letting you know how prison gangs became prominent in federal and state prisons.
The idea is that the people/state have a right to stop your aggression against others, but since this can be accomplished with imprisonment or the death penalty, punishments which are actively torture are excessive and go beyond the legitimate role of the state. It's worth remembering that at the time the Bill of Rights was written almost all of the world was obsessed with torture. For hundreds of years thereafter. The public sentiment can be easily whipped up into all sorts of atrocities.
With proper anesthesia and surgery why not take off the hand of a serial thief? Obviously incarceration is a failure. Choice 15 years or the non dominate hand but, you get rehab, not to be cruel. Also I find decades on death row repugnant. If They Can't Execute Within !0 Years Cruel & Unusual What's it all about? #1 y'gonna execute someone broadcast on PBS. Remove the abstraction of the death penalty. Cruel & Unusual So locked up for decades ain't! Support Prison Colonies Moi
Taking someone's hand doesn't stop them from stealing. It's purely for the enjoyment of the person collecting the hand. Torture is for the torturer. The death penalty system needs to be reformed so you get one appeal, then you get to propose SCOTUS takes the case, if they decline you are promptly executed with a 12 gauge slug to the back of the head. No ****ing around, no 20 years on death row. We have all these bullshit regulatory crimes, we need to trim the code to the basics and have serious penalties including the death penalty for actual crimes. Is gardening a plant some people dislike really a proper crime? What about selling raw milk that is properly labelled on a voluntary basis? If you have an empty can in the back of your car and blow 0.00% BAC, is that really a crime? We prosecute too many things, and don't have proper sentences for what matters. That's the problem. An example from closer to home for me is vaping in Australia. To stop children getting them you can **** over people like me who have given up a life of smoking by banning vaping, or you can put a 10 year minimum on selling them to kids. We choose the former option because it's really about controlling the populace. Enforcing the principle of control. Solving the problem is a secondary concern. Increasingly the walls between prison and society have been dissolved.
