So what defines right and left?

I would conjecture that as long as you have other options available, you have not been denied, prohibited nor prevented. Just because your favorite pub has closed, doesn't mean you now have to go thirsty.

For the record, you interjected abortion into the thread, not me.

With that, I'm done too. Cheers!

 

My comment did not include other options.
Stop changing my comment.
Your position is an extension of mine.
Mine was fact. It was a truism.
Now you come in here telling us what facts and truth are , and indicating your awareness of propaganda changing facts to alter the impression of truth.
AND THEN DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU ACCUSE OTHERS OF DOING.
The paramètres of my comment did not include travel, not only because it is not possible for everyone but also because my point was that denial of abortion increases the probability of further dépendance on benefits since those who can't travel are among the poorer éléments of the community. So those states which complain most about welfare costs and which deny an abortion are compounding their own problems.
It is perfectly acceptable to introduce abortion into a conversation about something else if it is relevant. Your nonsense where you tried to pick at my comment by making assumptions over and above what I said, thus both diverting the thread and falling into your own rabbit hole by changing what I said and then trying to disprove my point is disingenuous and backfired on your prétended awareness of the danger of changing facts to create another truth.
If you had wanted to follow fact you would have said, in reply to me, " yes however if you take into account...blah blah" that acknowledges my point but respectfully extends the fact with your conditional. But you didn't. You tried to call me out.
And failed.
I suggest you read what is posted and don't change adjust it to support your opinion. One is fact. The latter is how propaganda works.
If you have anything to add, PM me. I am pretty sure that others not only are unhappy with your diversion of the thread but also your whackamole invitations designed to récover à shred of respect.

 

In the very first sentence of your OP, you said:
"I am surprised that I have been identified as left." -Pixie

Later in the thread, you said:
"...denial of abortion just pushed the wheel of dépendance round again." - Pixie

In order for "denial of abortion" to have "pushed the wheel of dépendance" in any significant way, there would have to be significant, large numbers of women... not just a few... who have been prevented from getting an abortion. This idea is left-wing propaganda, and is not true. That is what I am calling out.

Every woman has to travel to get an abortion, and always has. Distance is the only thing that has changed.

My suggestion to you was only that you are repeating and spreading left-wing propaganda, and that may be WHY you have been identified as 'left'.

 

Stop playing whackamole.
And stop repeating your failures.
They don't get any better for retelling or are you once again trying to pervert what I wrote by changing it?
READ WHAT IS THERE, NOT YOUR EDITED VERSION.
ANY woman denied an abortion potentially adds to the cycle of dépendance on welfare.
That is fact.
Not political propaganda.
Is it true or not that women are denied abortion in some places?
Yes or no?
No buts, ands or maybe's . No add ons. No whatifs. No "Yes but's".
In answer to your qualification, I'll add mine.
Not all women can afford to travel.
THEREFORE they wont be able to afford to bring up an unwanted child for 18 years and will be on welfare, so disliked often by the same people who denied her an abortion in the first place.
This is not opinion.
This is fact.
You wouldn't know fact from fanny mate.
Now either PM me or continue to look the fool.

 

Your assertion is that women are being denied abortions; a left-wing talking point. I have asked you, multiple times, from the first reply, to support your assertion. You have declined, every time, to do so. At this point, we must let the readers decide why that is. Until you do, we have nothing else to discuss on this topic.

I hope you now better understand why you have been identified as 'left'. <-- this is, and has been, the topic.

 

The Supreme Court is the proof!
Are you really that unaware?
I take no lesson from someone who can't identify a fact without changing it.
And I don't rise to your baiting.
Your opinion as to my politics means nothing when you can't disentangle fact from his own propaganda.
Especially when he isnt man enough to admit it. That only leaves me one conclusion.
The FACT is that I enjoy honest discussion and am not interested in playing word games because someone's pride is having been caught out.
Next time, read what is written and nor what you want to see.
You are now not going to waste anymore of my time.
You are on ignore. As you say, I am tired of this bullsh1t

 

You still have not supported your assertion. That would be honest discussion. It is impossible to ever arrive at truth when you 'ignore' dissenting viewpoints.

I have said that I'm not aware of ANY women who were prevented from getting an abortion due to travel. I cannot prove a negative. You have said there ARE, and are adamant about that 'fact'. Yet, you cannot or will not support your assertion. We must leave the readers to decide why that is.

 

My two cents worth: It sounds like you misunderstand the supreme court ruling. The supreme court simply said they have no authority to say anything about abortion one way or another.

 

I am one step ahead.
I am talking about the denial by the state now charged with the decision.

 

The state has no authority to deny women from getting abortions. They do, however, now have the authority to deny abortion providers license to operate.

 

Does this work if hieght represents skill? No? But that's how it's being applied.

 

I couldn't stop laughing:

 

I shudder to think what Thanksgiving will be like: