Woke Batgirl is so bad, it won’t be released. 100 million down the toilet.

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed. They shouldn't need a test audience to tell them it stinks.
     
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    I don't see any problem that Lelie Grace was going to play Batgirl.

    Also, there is a different line on wiki, saying:
    However, Variety denied that the film's quality factored into the decision,[45] reaffirming, along with The Hollywood Reporter and Deadline Hollywood, that it was part of the studio's larger cost-cutting measures, given the budget increased from an initial $70 million to $90 million, and the desire for DC films to be theatrical blockbusters.[45][40][46] Deadline noted that test screenings showed temporary versions of the visual effects, "which tend to temper audience enthusiasm". A subsequent Variety report indicated that WBD had concluded that writing off Batgirl for a tax break would be the most "financially sound" way of recouping its costs instead of moving the film to a theatrical release with additional investment, selling it to another distributor, or releasing it on HBO Max
     
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    https://cosmicbook.news/batgirl-plot-details-cancellation

    Batgirl plot details:
    According to Twitter user ViewerAnon, the Michael Keaton Batman is only featured in five scenes in Batgirl, and get this, the Keaton Batman is said NOT to be serving as a mentor role to Leslie Grace's Barbara Gordon (of course not), and that he didn't train Batgirl (then who did?):

    Michael Keaton only had 5 scenes in BATGIRL. He didn't train Barbara, she just dressed up as Batman for a Halloween party, stopped some terrorists, and tweaked the costume to be a superhero.

    It's said the footage involves Keaton as Batman in only two scenes:

    He meets Barbara twice in costume, first on the street telling her not to do this, then in one of those big Tim Burton-y towers where he helps her with something she needs. The last scene of the movie was them teaming up and diving off a gargoyle to fly around Gotham.

    Brendan Fraser was supposed to play the villain, Firefly, where the plot would have involved his character getting fired from his job where he would lose his health insurance and would not be able to help his sick wife where he would turn to a life of crime:

    Everyone liked him! Fraser consistently pointed to as the highpoint by all of my sources.

    Firefly gets fired from his job and his health insurance is canceled, so he desperately turns back to crime in order to help his wife.

    Everyone really liked Brendan Fraser as Firefly. His backstory: he was a slower goon for a Gotham mob boss that went straight to support his son's political aspirations. So Firefly got a normal job to try and pay for his sick wife's healthcare.

    Killer Moth was a terrorist trying to kill Bruce Wayne - Firefly kills him soon after.

    The Twitter user also says the cowl of Barbara Gordon's improved Batgirl suit that she uses for most of the movie is made from Catwoman's (an earlier test screening says Michelle Pfeiffer is the Catwoman of the universe but she doesn't appear in the movie, and also that a Black Canary Easter Egg is included in the form of a poster).

    ViewerAnon user also adds that Stallone is not in the movie, that Dick Grayson Nightwing is not in the film, that JK Simmons is excellent as Gordon, and that Ben Affleck was never in the movie.

    Collider's Steven Weintraub says on Twitter that he spoke to people that saw Batgirl and "they said it was a huge disappointment, and "also that the costumes looked cheap, especially Keaton’s Batman costume."


    Sounds like crap. Random "I'm a badass who needs no training or struggle" story, breaking the origin story of the character. Not trained by Bruce etc. That's not Batgirl.
    If you want to tell that story: Make a new ****ing character ffs.
     
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    CW's Supergirl had a trans character as did the new Saved by the Bell

    So clearly there is a conscious effort to represent them
     
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    Interesting . Was this truly a "Woke Joke" ? know little about the flick .. other than don't want to even stream the thing
     
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    So according to you the Wild Wild West movie was all about wokeness, eh?
     
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    Barbara Gordon is a white girl. A ****ing ginger ffs.
    She's not a wise latina. You want to make bat person that's a wise latina? FFS just spin up another there are already like 10. Don't erase an existing character.
     
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    You are aware they race-swapped, yes?
     
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    It was on the early line of that trend, yes. You realize it bombed right?
     
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    Wokeness in 1999? Nonsense. It bombed because it was a bad movie.
     
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    It was a bad movie partially because of woke bullshit
     
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    Haha…ok. Whatever
     
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    Are you aware that it wasn't cancelled because of that?
    But I wouldn't rule out it's a problem for you.
     
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    I still see no problem with it.
    And I put up that this wasn't the problem. It just you that wants it to be this problem.
     
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    He, and others like him, need something to be outraged about. Very odd.
     
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    It seems the far right white wing wants to pin the blame on a color woman why a movie failed.
     
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    How do you know that’s not a huge reason why? Can you name a movie, video game, etc… where a major character was race swapped and the piece went on to huge success? I bet you can’t.
     
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    The CW Supergirl was super woke, to the point of absurdity.
     
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    Says a lot about people who have an issue with a non-white playing a “white” role. And what it says isn’t good…just sayin.
    In the case of Wild Wild West it was bad because of this silliness

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    I am glad someone else finally pointed this out. The news for this decision only broke yesterday and the info was trickling out slowly mixed with a ton more speculation but supposedly the ONE test screening was favorable. It scored in the 60s. That score is about the same a Shazam 2 which is going to theaters and you also have to consider that this film is still being edited and the final FX and score were not even in the movie. From what I can gather the crux of the problem is because Warner Bros. merged with Discovery in April. Warners Bros originally had a vision for DC streaming on the HBO Max platform. They wanted to develop movies and show direct to HBO Max similar to Marvel on Disney +. Batgirl was one of those. The speculation is the new execs do not support that vision. They had already cancelled the Wonder Twins movie about a month ago. I think what they wanted to do was release Batgirl in the theaters instead but they believed it was not "BIG" enough for a theatrical release. They considered re-shooting some parts but estimated the $100 millions dollars extra for additional production and advertising would not be worth it. They also thought the $90 million cost for HBO Max was too much. (This part I do not understand because the movie is essentially almost complete). Many fans are speculating that the new management is not interested in HBO Max and many worry that other shows like the Penguin, Blue Beetle, and even Peacemaker could be in trouble. The claims of "Wokeness" and Bad reviews seem to have come from speculation rather than any real concrete sources.

    https://screenrant.com/batgirl-movie-test-screenings-reactions-report/
     
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    read post 53.
     
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    Battlestar Galactica. One of the most successful and critically acclaimed sci-fi series of all time. They swapped Adama from white to Latino, They swapped Tigh from black to white, they swapped Starbuck from male to female, they swapped Cain from male to female, and Boomer from black male to Asian female.

    What do I win?
     
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    it bombed because will smith only knows how to play will smith, and the script sucked. Also, there was no reason to change the race for the role, aside from riding will's hot streak.
     
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    one is a western where roles were pretty stationary and the other was a space series where race had become meaningless.


    Oh, and Adama was not Latino in any way.
     
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