Abortion ban amendment shot down in Kansas doesn't bode well for Repubss

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  1. Cybred

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    Then she forfeited nothing. By the way, who are you that you get to make that determination for someone else?
     
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    Wow, the extent to which self-centered people will go to justify killing a life that's inconvenient to them is terrifying. Nothing, apparently, is more important than their comfort and happiness.
     
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    The point is pleasure but, who cares. In the case of an unwanted accidental pregnancy potential .. the responsible thing to do is to abort the process of creation ASAP .. do you not agree :)
     
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    Thy process of creation is exactly as I've described as you now have described. Thanks! lol

    Once you admit that the zygot divides and grows into new cells, you've lost the plot. I mean once you admit that the definition states that the zygote houses all the DNA information that creates the person...you've lost the plot.

    This is hilarious!

    If your arguement here is that the zygote is an empty hollow sack that creates the cells....and those cells become the person...you need to brush up on the science of it. Those zygotes house the DNA INFORMATION which is the person...you are so close. So very close.

    https://www.verywellfamily.com/what-is-a-zygote-2796031
    "The zygote’s single cell contains all of the 46 necessary chromosomes, getting 23 from the sperm and 23 from the egg."

    It's that DNA information that makes the zygote in this instance special and not something you can just willy nilly destroy because you see it as an empty sack of nothing.


    Keep going! I'm amused!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A terrible Tradgedy .. all the life you killed with your morning dump.. how could you be so self-centered .. and what a preposterous joke of an argument ... candidates for the dumb and dumber hour are such arguments.
     
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    The vote in Kansas proves that Roe was bad law and needed to be overturned.
    IOW, abortion will not be an issue in the next election.
     
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    Why are you amused at your falsehoods. You claimed at conception the complete human genome exists .. that is false.
    Nothing in the process of creation you describes .. supports your nonsense claim that a zygote is a baby.

    We all know that a zygote results from sperm and egg as per the process you described -- that doesn't mean a baby exists at that point .. and you claiming such is fallacious nonsense on steroids.


    Your claim that a baby exists at conception remaines 100% - unsupported yet on the basis of falsehood and fallacy you want to force your religious beliefs others through physical violence.. same as the Islamist Jihadist.

    Do you not agree that the Islamist Jihadists are human garbage ?
     
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    no she absolutely holds responsabiliy towards her actions. if you drive recklessly drunk but do not hit anyone...are you still responsabile for your actions? is it something you should partake in? even though you may find the action "fun"?
     
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    "The zygote’s single cell contains all of the 46 necessary chromosomes, getting 23 from the sperm and 23 from the egg."

    Sorry. You need to read more I guess. It is exactly as I described. Thanks for the easy W!
     
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    People can be fined $10,000 and be sent to prison for 2 years for destroying certain bird eggs. but killing a fertilized egg in a mother's womb, or even a fully developed fetus, that's to be celebrated and even paid for by the government. What a tragic and disgusting worldview abortion advocates have.
     
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    Not really sure if I failed to articulate, or if you failed to comprehend. Either way, the point I was attempting to make was that the free market will pretty quickly solve the immediate problems associated with unmet demand for abortion that has recently occured in some states. Demand for products and services does not tend to go unmet here for long. It is a 'transitory' problem, and will pass. Of course, the midterms are coming, and political hay must be made, so carry on with that I guess.
     
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    Having an abortion is not 'abdicating personal responsibility"... it's exercising it.
     
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    An acorn is not an oak tree, it will develop into one but it is still not an oak tree.
     
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    Partaking in the act of procreating, hoping that you don't procreat and if you should using the act of murder to get out from under the consequences of your actions?

    Wanna try again?
     
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    A child is not an adult. It will develop into one but it is still not an adult!

    See how stupid that sounds now?

    You've created a unique individual at conception. That's scientifically what you've done. You are trying to negate it's value or importance due to it's size and lack of development. Because at conception it doesn't instantly look like a baby which would make you feel uncomfortable killing it because you can relate to that form.

    But it is what it is.
     
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    Sorry but its still it's exercising it.
     
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    Its very simple, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death
     
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    A human fertilized egg is not a bird mate . nor an endangered species of bird. What does this have to do with you crying real tears over "human life" you killed during your morning dump.
     
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    And she forfeits that right when she willfully partook in the one action that put it in there!

    Congrats! You purposefully made the thing now you are responsible for that thing.
     
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    What does the W stand for .. The Anti American prize - The Moron Prize ?

    We all know the zygote is a single human cell and no one told you otherwise .. so why are you pretending they did .. then running around claiming you won something on the basis of some imaginary conversation you are having with yourself.

    Your claim that a single human cell is a baby .. is unsupported nonsense. Every human cell has 46 chromosomes .. a heart cell is a baby according to your made up nonsense definition.

    That you wish to force your religious beliefs on others through physical violence like the Islamists is disgusting
     
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    ^Heaven forbid a once granted right is now subject to popularity contests^
     
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    You're really reaching now. Maybe you just admit justifying murder.
     
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    State laws are passed by elected representatives. not a popularity contest. That's how it works.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    [It is a] fundamental maxim of republican government, which requires that the sense of the majority should prevail. --Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #22

    A minority electing a president appointing right wing ideologue justices selected by the Federalist Society is not my idea of 'democracy'.

    A majority electing a president who would, in turn, appoint justices whose values reflect that of the majority is democracy. Don't believe me, Believe Hamilton.
     
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    Exactly right. I cannot understand the argument that this issue is going to cause republicans to vote for democrats. Makes no sense.
     
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