THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Kris P. Bacon

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    You won’t convince the media cheerleaders here of that. We’re still at the stage of explaining why sticking a tongue out and shouting ‘Putin Puppet’ won’t win the war.
     
  2. UntilNextTime

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    Yeah, sure. That's what it is.
     
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    The Ukrainians, they have a strategy. They'll give Russia a few yards, but bleed them in the process. They're winning a war of attrition. Russia is running out of warm bodies.

    The Ukrainians loudly advertised how they'd be throwing everything at Kherson. The Russians fell for it hard, and shifted large numbers of troops into Kherson. The Ukrainians then attacked and advanced near Izyum, where the Russians weren't. Psych!

    Now the Russians keep pushing more troops into Kherson, where they'll be cut off. Ukraine has demonstrated they can hit those bridges at will.

    That's what happens when an inept fascist dictator micromanages the army, and none of his underlings dare tell him he's an idiot. The Russian commanders are more afraid of Putin than the Ukrainians. DearLeader said that Kherson must be defended at all costs, so the commanders obeyed.
     
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    There are a far number. Both sides have appealed to far right nationalists as militia members due to man power shortages. That said, the Ukrainian government is in no way "Nazis" as Putin's lying propagandists claim. A very good case can be made that Putin's dictatorship is a fascist government though and, yes, Russians definitely have that element too.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-neo-nazis-fighting-ukraine/31871760.html
     
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    Yes, apart from Biletsky, the Ukrainian government isn’t National Socialist, but they rely on Nazi militias to prop up the army. I don’t think the Russian army is short of manpower, they haven’t even called up national conscription. One Russian shouting he’s a Nazi isn’t the same thing and I think if he did say that, the Russians themselves are going to have a more than a little chat with him.
     
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    Pentagon confirms HARM Anti Radiation missiles were included in the latest arms package sent to Ukraine and are now operational. (Expect to see the life expectancy of Russian Radar operators in Ukraine decrease significantly.) Also updates were given for casualty estimates (70-80 thousand). Link to follow.
     
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    All for a Choco Pie . . .

    Only Tankies think the North Korean military is something to fear.
     
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    True dat.
     
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    Israel took out two key Islamic Jihad leaders in Gaza the other day. It's remarkable they were able to identify them through intelligence and target them in the most crowded place on earth with so few 'collateral' casualties. Like how America took out that Al Quaeda leader recently - identifying where he was, the layout of his house, who was in that house at what time of the day etc.. Biden was even given a model of the house to be sure.
    Now imagine this was Russia:
    Putin would say Gaza is part of Russia, and like Chechnya it must be crushed. This would begin with rolling artillary, missiles and air craft, followed by tanks and infantry. Gaza City (like Grozny) would be flattened - maybe a million dead.
    And there's a nice comparison between Russia in Syria and Israel in Gaza below.

    Gaza and Jobar.jpg
     
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    Why are you addressing this apology for atrocity at my doorstep ? I can help you naught .. been through this before .. take dat out the back door . por favor.

    Plenty "collateral damage" -- n bad precedent karma ta boot.. children killed === big bomb on apartment block in crowded civilian center -- clear war crime ... anything but "Precision" and a mere political target . when supposed to be making peace .. some agreement broke down in Egypt .. so now we go kill the leaders on the other side of the table ... Israel so famous for these dirty political dealing ... guilty of crimes and violations of international moray's and norms a plenty ..

    Now take this vile apology hence .. hypocrisy no more .. and vow to arm the bold Palestinians .. fighting the aggressors trying to steal the land and victimize the peoples therin ... same way we did Ukraine .. ay mate :) Give them Freedom Fighters - o Palestine those HIMARS forthwith. never mind the home made fireworks/ "Rockets" .... now thats what we talking .. send in the drones .. the missiles ..defend these people agasint the aggressor. .. break on through to the other side .. yahoo Pooh :) ..
     
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    Russian precision guided weapon systems used in Ukraine identified as requiring critical components obtained from the West.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/8/russian-weapons-in-ukraine-powered-by-western-parts-rusi

    This AlJazerra report indicates that no less that 27 key Russian combat systems either captured by Ukraine intact or recovered damaged from the battlefield have been found to rely on more than 450 key components imported from the West. Without them the systems can't be manufactured. The intelligence recovered in this way is not only being used to refine/re-target the existing sanctions, it also means that Russia's ability to replace its PGM arsenal has been crippled.

    The information obtained goes a long way to explaining why Russia has increasingly relied on cold war era weapons from old stockpiles (going back to the 60s) for strikes in Ukraine in recent months. Its literally running out of modern weapon systems.
     
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    What would Palestinians want HIMARS for? To better target shopping malls? Take out that crowded train? Terror must be INDISCRIMINATE.
    It's time the Arabs of Palestine went back to the Arab Penninsula and allowed the Jews to live in their own lands.
     
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    Yes, Russians have a chat with this Nazi Melcakov - he friendly sake hands with head of occupied Criteria and walk around kinder gardens and schools to yell about his deeds. But of course these "nazinazinazi" bots don't give a **** about it.
     
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    You need a new script, the one you're using is getting stale (old).
     
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    Here we can see another "denazificator" Dimity Utkin, head of "private military company" Wagner Group:

    upload_2022-8-9_9-0-18.png

    In fact, Wagner is government affiliate with heavy weapons and even warplanes, paramilitary organization, like Nazi Waffen SS. And as we can see, mister Utkin have Waffen SS tattoos...
    Here the same "denazificator"together with Putin:

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    https://images.app.goo.gl/X8E4BuiWUCn5Lpxs6

    So, as bot said, Russians have a more than a little chat with their nazis on highest level. :D
     
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    And in recent news;

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-09/russian-airlines-impacted-by-sanctions/101315094

    Thanks to sanctions Russia has been forced to start cannibalizing commercial aircraft in order to keep the rest of its civilian transport fleet flying. (As predicted would happen by many on this forum.) And since modern aircraft components all have numbers and global loaded into global tracking systems it will be next to impossible for Russia to find anyone willing to sell them spares. By the end of the year the domestic carriers will be in serious trouble - and Russian passengers will be very nervous flyers, assuming they can get a seat.
     
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    Ukraine is being kept alive with finance from the west as its economy collapses. That money is used to buy back weapons from the west (and go into private pockets), but the money won’t keep flowing forever. Eventually the west will stop financing a lost cause. The US and EU will move in to plunder the industries that are left and what’s left of Ukraine will spend the next 20 years paying back the debt. Ukraine was used by the west, it's becoming old news and already the focus is now shifting to Taiwan.
     
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    What? You are using heavy drugs?
     
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    So America will plunder Ukraine. What is it that America wants from Ukraine's economy? What evidence do you show that America intends to plunder Ukraine?
    Do you know who is plundering Ukraine, before your very (blind) eyes? Russia. Everything from washing machines to wheat is being plundered by Russia.
     
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    You will discover what I've said for yourself in due course.
     
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    I hardly think Russia is desperate for washing machines or wheat, the grain which its allowing Ukraine to export. :lol: Ukraine will end up like the Middle Eastern countries which were pillaged.
     
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    Russia intends to Pillage through brute force, mass killing and rape.
     
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    There is exactly one right wing militia in which a minority of members have expressed Nazi sympathies. Also, where have you been? Russia has major manpower issues because legally Putin cannot use conscripts who make up 90%+ of the Russian army. So they can only use volunteers, paid mercenaries, or supposed 3rd party separatist groups (who conscript everyone, all males 16-65, in occupied territories on pain of death). Thus why Putin keeps trying to find foreign fighters.
     
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    Ukraine Unleashes A 'Hurricane' Of Rockets Against Russian Forces


    Nice looking system. Apparently they've developed a missile domestically that can be fired up to 65 kilometers instead of the Uragan's original 35.
     
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    When did they tell you that? :)
     

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