100% of votes for Obama in a hundred precincts

There are dozens more I could've listed

 

I'm sure you could have. But I was interested in the connection between the countries you mentioned as "socialist" countries that are a part of the "5 Eyes" alliance.

 

LOL, So China wasn't communist? Like today?

Russia?

‘State capitalism’

Communist Party

Lenin’s plan, articulated in 1918, was dubbed ‘state capitalism’. It was essentially a mixed economy – major companies and industries would remain in private hands but under state control. Bourgeois managers and experts would retain their roles in industries, factories and manufacturing. These sectors would be managed by Vesenkha, a government department created by the Sovnarkom in late 1917.
https://alphahistory.com/russianrev...ed,in industries, factories and manufacturing.

Yes, America, Ireland, Canada, UK, etc have socialists policies. Our ECONOMIES are capitalist but they do have socialism in there. Get honest with your verbiage!!

 

In the case of Russian elections such anomalies were considered a sure sign of voter fraud by Washington Post

"United Russia’s reported election results are so improbable as to violate Gauss’s groundbreaking work on statistics."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...tion-inquiry/2011/12/11/gIQAmBR8nO_story.html

and estimates that ten millions votes were fraudulent

https://web.archive.org/web/2012020...as-between-10000000-and-20000000-votes/128218

Compare Russian elections


to Michigan elections

 

ONCE MORE:

What I found were hundreds of precincts around the nation where Romney didn't get a single vote, and many precincts where President Obama was shutout as well.


Political science professor Jonathan Rodden of Stanford University ran the numbers for the 2008 election, and found hundreds of precincts where John McCain received no votes - and some that gave no votes to Obama as well.

"If we limit ourselves to precincts in which at least 10 votes were cast, there are almost 180,000" in the U.S., Rodden told me. "Of these, 477 gave every single vote to Obama, and 52 gave every single vote to McCain."

https://www.ajc.com/blog/jamie-dupr...s-say-not-voter-fraud/UBtQcSBfew00GpmtrhvzwN/

 

You need to worry about the huge number of examples of Socialism in America then. For example the population collaborating to pay for and produce roads for everybody to use, such butchery and terror eh?
Or could it be that you don’t know what the word ‘socialism’ actually means?

 

UK USA Canada etc are absolutely not socialist nations. They have welfare programs, that’s not being a socialist nation.

USSR China Cuba the Warsaw Pact nations, Cambodia, Ethiopia were/are socialist. Did you go to public school to not know such basic data?

You help make my arguement that theocracy doesn’t come close to the brutality of secular activity.

Ghengis Kahn was brutal but not as brutal as 20th century socialism.

 

Another one of those?

That’s not socialism. Just because people are cooperating to accomplish a common goal is not socialism.

The USA is - or was - a constitutional republic.

So many ignorant people, no wonder the USA is falling apart.

 

Error

 

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Social democracy is seen in the Nordic model, which includes a welfare state based on free market capitaliam. The model also include multi-level collective bargaining, a high percentage of the workforce unionized, and a large percentage of the workforce employed by the public sector. The Nordic countries were shaped by social democracy. Many other European countries have social democracies.

Other countries that have adopted and enacted socialist ideas and policies to various degrees, and have seen success in improving their societies by doing so, are Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain, Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand.

Your entire remise is BS. I know socialism/Marxism/Communism are all the same to you nutjobs



Like my original post said "It's socialism huh? Not dictator type TFG wants?"

Apparently you AmeriKKKan Taliban would love it!

 

People cooperating to accomplish a common goal is absolutely socialism.
There are examples of that throughout American society however you might choose to describe the place politically.

 

wrong.

 

So wrong. Not even Wikipedia agrees with you. Wow the ignorance is incredible.

 

After a moments thought the ignorance on the left makes sense.

At this point the smart people who were supporting the democrats/progressives/socialists saw the writing on the wall and walked away. The only people left on the DPS side are, we’ll let’s just say they are on the low end of the curve.

 

But those arguments are not new and have been found unconvincing in the case of Russian elections by great scientists. See https://statmodeling.stat.columbia....ic-society-has-low-standards-for-publication/

Can you explain why same anomalies prove electoral fraud in the case of Russian elections and lose significance when they happen in the US?

 

No, that makes the term so broad as to be meaningless. Doubles tennis is not socialism, duh. Two thugs ganging up on an elderly woman to beat and rob her is not socialism, duh.

 

Conspiracy BS aside:



You probably don't trust his guy BUT:


"We see that nearly every election cycle," said Brian Kemp, the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia, who told me he wasn't worried by a precinct that gives zero votes to one of the major candidates for President.


"That's simply a statistical anomaly."


Proving that point, it wasn't hard to find examples in Kemp's own backyard, as Romney received zero votes in six precincts located in Fulton County, Georgia, which is home to much of the city of Atlanta.

The largest spread was 327-0 for Obama in precinct CP083, on the southeast side of College Park, Georgia, an area that is over 80 percent African American, not far from downtown Atlanta.


There were seven other precincts in that same county where Romney received only a single vote; in one precinct, Obama ran up an 898-1 advantage.



Political science professor Jonathan Rodden of Stanford University ran the numbers for the 2008 election, and found hundreds of precincts where John McCain received no votes - and some that gave no votes to Obama as well.

"If we limit ourselves to precincts in which at least 10 votes were cast, there are almost 180,000" in the U.S., Rodden told me. "Of these, 477 gave every single vote to Obama, and 52 gave every single vote to McCain."

Stanford's Rodden found in 2008 what I found in the data from 2012 - Mitt Romney shutout Barack Obama in a number of rural, mainly white areas in the South and Plains, while President Obama rolled up huge margins in big city precincts that were overwhelmingly African American.

And on Tuesday, we could well see a repeat - and it won't be voter fraud, experts say.

"If there is a precinct that is primarily African American, Donald Trump is not going to get many votes at all," said Matt Dallek, a political historian and associate professor at George Washington University.

Here is one example in 2012, from Philadelphia's 3rd ward, a heavily black area on the southwest side of the city:




In 2012 in Pennsylvania, it wasn't just Philadelphia that had precincts give no votes to Romney, as it also happened in Pittsburgh, and two suburban precincts outside of Philadelphia.

That pattern was repeated in cities like Detroit, where there were 31 precincts that went to Obama in which Romney did not get a single vote, with many of those precincts delivering well over 400 votes each to Obama - another big city area with a high concentration of black supporters and few Republicans.


...Stanford's Rodden, who gathered the data from over 185,000 precincts after the 2008 election, pointed out that Obama won 100 percent in some precincts in the rural South - areas run by the GOP.

And that he says shows the argument of voter fraud doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

"In many of these counties, the election administrators work for county governments that are solidly Republican," Rodden told me in an email. "The notion of such a vast conspiracy across hundreds of counties is absurd."

One of the more interesting states in 2012 was Louisiana, where 75 precincts won by Obama did not give a single vote to Romney - but, there were also 46 other precincts won by Romney where Obama did not get one vote.


https://www.ajc.com/blog/jamie-dupr...s-say-not-voter-fraud/UBtQcSBfew00GpmtrhvzwN/

 

I can't speak for the OP's specific numbers, but this sort of thing has been going on for a long time. I've looked at some of the politifact articles on this and their position is that it being "mathematically impossible" is a pants-on-fire lie, but that kind of dodges the issue.

This has been going on a long long time in the US. If you've ever seen the movie Gangs of New York, they give a pretty good example.


Romney earned zero votes in some urban precincts

 

You can define the term another way if you like, possibly you think Socialism is a form of political system, however you would be mistaken.

 

This is not "Conspiracy BS" but an article in Proceedings of National Academy of Sciences

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1210722109

Here is a picture from it



And here is the same graph for Michigan elections (from https://www.researchgate.net/public...tistical_detection_of_election_irregularities )



As you see Michigan elections look as bogus as Russia and Uganda elections.

 

It's an economic system: collective ownership of the means of production.

 

Got it, you don't like real facts.

IF there was massive fraud in 400+ districts in 2008, wouldn't the GOP when they gained the House in 2012 looked at it to stop it from happening?

ONCE MORE, TRY ADRESSING THIS


The Harvard Election Data Archive includes voting results from three dozen states in the 2012 election, including Pennsylvania. Out of about 90,000 precincts in the data set, roughly 3,000 gave nearly all of their vote — 98 percent or more — to one candidate. And Obama was the beneficiary nearly nine times out of 10.

About 500 of these lopsided precincts were in Philadelphia (a city with 1,686 precincts). Others were in Chicago, Pittsburgh, St. Louis and Atlanta, all heavily segregated cities with sizable black populations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/...adelphia-zero-votes-does-not-equal-fraud.html


Precinct-Level Election Data
https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=hdl:1902.1/21919



Zero votes in a precinct for a presidential candidate: It happens, and experts say it's not voter fraud


"We see that nearly every election cycle," said Brian Kemp, the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia, who told me he wasn't worried by a precinct that gives zero votes to one of the major candidates for President.




Voting experts told us districts with unanimous votes for Obama were not evidence of vote fraud. In fact, they said, based on demographics and party affiliation in urban areas, such votes were expected.

“Those results seem perfectly plausible without any reasonable suspicion of vote fraud,” Sasha Issenberg, author of “The Victory Lab: The Secret Science of Winning Campaigns,” told us via email.

“In cities like Philadelphia and Cleveland this type of racial polarization isn’t that unusual,” Issenberg said. “Census tracts are much larger than divisions, as precincts are known in Philadelphia — the smallest unit at which votes are reported, usually a few hundred each. Is it hard to imagine that a fraction of a census tract that is 95+ percent black could go 100 percent for Obama when voters across that category statewide are voting at a 93 percent rate?”
https://www.factcheck.org/2016/08/trumps-faulty-rigged-reasoning/





Romney earned zero votes in some urban precincts 2012
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/romney-earned-zero-votes-in-some-urban-precincts/



There is another, more credible, explanation. “This is definitely more about math than fraud,” said Jeffrey Carroll, an assistant professor of political science at Chestnut Hill College in Philadelphia who has analyzed those 2012 results. It is math partly of the G.O.P.’s own making.



In fact, there are predominantly black pockets in Philadelphia where no one wanted to vote for Mr. Romney. (Officials including the city’s Republican commissioner have looked at the data and today’s hard-to-rig voting machines and concluded the same).

Precincts in Philadelphia, Chicago and other heavily minority cities point to a pair of trends that shouldn’t be mysterious to Republicans: The party has made little effort to court black voters. And a long history of residential segregation — from which Republicans have benefited electorally — has concentrated black voters in these places.

 

No it isn’t.
I think you are describing Communism.

 

All of your examples took place during times when the ENTIRE world population was well under even ONE billion. They killed fewer people because there were many fewer people to kill.

The Inquisition DID suffer from bad press. During a shorter period, some 2 million were executed in the German witch mania

The Crusades had several other reasons besides religion, most notably control of the lucrative Levant trading area. Religion was, then as now, mainly an excuse for war rather than a cause.

 

According to your link, many of those precincts had 1 voter, so its gonna be 100% one way or another. McCain probably won a bunch of 1 voter precincts too, meaning he raked in 100% of the votes. More than 30 precincts had less than 10 voters and they are in places like Queens, NYC so it is what it is, but to claim its proof of fraud is just.......reaching.

And no, I did not vote for Obama, I voted for Ron Paul in 2008.