15% diagnosed with new medical condition after vaccine

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  1. GrayMan

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    Those are because of lockdowns, only restaurants open are drive through a lot of times, and people are isolated and not going to gyms, playing outside with friends, or excersizing.

    The thing that really concerns me are the young people dying from heart issues who are active and healthy.
     
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    many did not go to the doctor before covid for a variety of reasons
     
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    Really.......:roflol:

    Tell me which field do you work in?

    Nuclear physicists like "Enrico Fermi", or Biophysics like "Klaus Schulten", or Astrophysics like "Stephen Hawking", or Atomic physics like "Albert Einstein", or are you more in the field of bullshit and fraud physicists like Joe Biden?
     
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    I put my money on an optical physist. Still figuring out how to see things on their own, without the assistance of MSM propaganda BS.:shock:
     
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    It's pretty clear he gets his information "critical thinking" and sees all things through the lens of government and corporate run MSM of "stranglehold and censorship".
     
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    Rightly so. I bet there's an extensive range of propaganda flyers, brochures and leaflets all piled and categorised neatly into easy-to-manage piles stashed around the house. To keep up to speed with the nonsense.
     
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    He said he still had it two years ago and that it lasted for a year - which means it started closer to the three years ago timeline the HE stated was
    the truth. December 8th, 2020 was the start of the first jabs - so even if we are talking the two year time-line, then his symptoms appeared BEFORE the jab.

    But you guys want to go crazy and pretend the jab travels back in time - then anything anybody tells you will be ignored.
     
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    Do you know haw many women had implant troubles before covid? Tens of thousands. But you're going to pretend it could ONLY be from the
    jab no matter what anyone says.
     
  9. UntilNextTime

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    LOL.. He said, and I quote .... "Two years ago"... not I had it for two years. Clearly you can see the difference.. Talk to the NIH. They seem worried. Perhaps they can assure you of your fears.
     
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    Dr Malone did not invent the mRNA vaccine. https://www.businessinsider.com/dr-robert-malone-mrna-scientist-vaccine-skeptic-2022-2

    For his part, he showed that mRNA could be injected into mammals in the late 80’s.

    https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines

    https://www.10news.com/news/in-depth/in-depth-did-robert-malone-invent-mrna-vaccines-in-san-diego

    To sum it up. Robert Malone did not invent the mRNA vaccines. With others, he contributed early evidence that mRNA could be delivered and produce proteins in cells.There was much more involved in regards to developing vaccines and many many researchers were working on this all over the world. The man appears to have developed into an unhinged nutter.
     
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    100% of these folks were diagnosed with a new disease after drinking water, so clearly water is a much more likely source.
     
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    EXCLUSIVE: CDC Admits It Gave False Information About COVID-19 Vaccine Surveillance

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is admitting it gave false information about COVID-19 vaccine surveillance, including inaccurately saying it conducted a certain type of analysis over one year before it actually did.


    The false information was conveyed in responses to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests for the results of surveillance, and after the CDC claimed COVID-19 vaccines are being monitored “by the most intense safety monitoring efforts in U.S. history.”


    “CDC has revisited several FOIA requests and as a result of its review CDC is issuing corrections for the following information,” a CDC spokeswoman told The Epoch Times in an email.


    No CDC employees intentionally provided false information and none of the false responses were given to avoid FOIA reporting requirements, the spokeswoman said.


    Heart Inflammation

    The Epoch Times in July submitted a FOIA, or a request for non-public information, to the CDC for all reports from a team that was formed to study post-vaccination heart inflammation by analyzing reports submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a system run by the CDC and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.


    The CDC not only said that the team did not conduct any abstractions or reports through October 2021, but that “an association between myocarditis and mRNA COVID-19 vaccination was not known at that time.”


    That statement was false.


    Clinical trials of the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines detected neither myocarditis nor pericarditis, two types of heart inflammation. But by April 2021, the U.S. military was raising the alarm about post-vaccination heart inflammation, and by June 2021, the CDC was publicly acknowledging a link.


    The CDC previously corrected the false statement but did not say whether its teams had ever analyzed VAERS reports.


    “In reference to myocarditis abstraction from VAERS reports—this process began in May 2021 and continues to this date,” the CDC spokeswoman said in an email.


    The CDC has still not released the results of analyses.


    Data Mining

    The CDC promised in January 2021 that it would perform a specific type of data mining analysis on VAERS reports called Proportional Reporting Ratio (PRR). But when Children’s Health Defense, a nonprofit, asked for the results, the CDC said that “no PRRs were conducted by the CDC” and that data mining “is outside of th[e] agency’s purview.”


    Asked for clarification, Dr. John Su, who heads the CDC’s VAERS team, told The Epoch Times in an email that the CDC started performing PRRs in February 2021, “and continues to do so to date.”


    The CDC is now saying that both the original response and Su’s statement were false.


    The agency didn’t start performing PRRs until March 25, 2022, the CDC spokeswoman said. The agency stopped performing them on July 31, 2022.


    The spokeswoman said it “misinterpreted” both Children’s Health Defense and The Epoch Times.


    Children’s Health Defense had asked for the PRRs the CDC had performed from Feb. 1, 2021, through Sept. 30, 2021. The Epoch Times asked if the response to the request was correct.


    The spokeswoman said the CDC thought “data mining” referred only to Empirical Bayesian (EB) data mining, a different type of analysis that the Food and Drug Administration has promised to perform on VAERS data.


    “The notion that the CDC did not realize we were asking about PRRs but only data mining in general is simply not credible, since our FOIA request specifically mentioned PRRs and their response also mentioned that they did not do PRRs. They did not say ‘data mining in general,'” Josh Guetzkow, a senior lecturer at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem who has been working with Children’s Health Defense, told The Epoch Times via email.


    “There is also no credible reason why they waited until March 31, 2022, to calculate PRRs, unless it was in response to our initial FOIA filed in December 2021, which was rejected on March 31, 2022—the same day they say they began their calculations. It means the CDC was not analyzing VAERS for early warning safety signals for well over a year after the vaccination campaign began—which still counts as a significant failure,” he added.


    The CDC has also not released the results of the PRRs. “PRR results were generally consistent with EB data mining, revealing no additional unexpected safety signals. Given it is a more robust data mining technique, CDC will continue relying upon EB data mining at this time,” the agency spokeswoman said.


    The FDA has told The Epoch Times it conducted EB data mining but the agency has declined to share the results.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclu...0fDmceNvsSk/w7vClyxetqdgmmr32KgX5NKlj80icbMk=

     
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    The straw that broke the camels back gets listed as the cause. In reality, it was the total sum of all the straws. Covid was listed as the cause of death, but in reality, covid was only the last straw.
     
  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    That's what they mean by "vulnerable people", isn't it?
     
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  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Your honor, the victim here was old and weak and would have died soon anyway. My client's knife in his heart was only the straw that broke the camel's back.

    All fatal diseases occur after other diseases but that doesn't mean that these other diseases therefore actually caused the death.
     
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    Your honor, I have a powerful lobby and contribute to their campaigns. I have a get out of taking responsibility card given to me by trump.

    If this product is "safe and effective" why is there a "use at your own risk" disclaimer?
     
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    Just because Robert Malone has claimed he invented mRNA vaccines doesn’t mean he is actually telling the truth which by the way he isn’t.

    Next he is going to be claiming he discovered messenger RNA itself —

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982215006065#bib1 — obviously lots of scientists involved with the discovery.

    From the Nature article in the quote above —
    Did R. Malone actually come up with the first ‘lipid delivery system’. As far as it goes, he was using the work of others who he has never credited in his “I am THE inventor of mRNA vaccines” lies.

    https://the-dna-universe.com/2021/04/15/the-history-of-mrna-applications/.

    So he didn’t even come up with the liposomes as mRNA delivery vehicle independently.

    Of course, in 1989, the liposome delivery vehicle system was nowhere near ready to be used with vaccines. Malone didn’t come up with that and wasn’t anywhere near the scientists who did.


    Fig. 1: Timeline of some key milestones for mRNA and lipid nanoparticle development. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41578-021-00358-0.pdf
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    Link — https://the-dna-universe.com/2021/04/15/the-history-of-mrna-applications/ — gives an excellent description of the major players involved at different stages.

    The Scientific Achievements Of A Scientist Named Ian Mclaughlin Made It Possible To Make Vaccines Based On Covid 19 mRNA, But Few People Appreciate Or Even Mention This Scientist.

    https://ded9.com/covids-unknown-hero-the-untold-story-of-a-scientist-who-made-vaccines-made/

    Again, for Robert Malone to claim that he invented the mRNA vaccines and/or the technology is total crap. Of course why would anybody believe the lies of an unhinged nutter who rejects everything, except of quack cures of course.

    The anti-vaxxers are once again pushing misinformation and not paying any attention to the 1000’s of scientists who state the vaccines are safe and useful.
     
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    The term "anti-vaxxers" was fed to people to rebleat for the purpose of demonizing those refusing to consume this product. Using the term reveals ignorance since the vast majority of these people are current in their necessary vaccines.
     
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    That would be the opinion of an anti-vaxxer. Not my definition. Usually when I debunk something, I get some off-topic meaningless comment directed at me by a purveyor of misinformation and lies.
     
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    I know its not your definition. It was fed to people to rebleat for the purpose of demonizing those refusing to consume trump's rushed, inferior product. Pharma salespeople earn high commissions, paid travel, and get a rolling suitcase full of free pens to give away. They have regular people pushing their inferior product for no pay.

    An "anti-vaxxer" refuses to take ANY vaccine. There are a few people like that. The people you are incorrectly calling "anti-vaxxers" are current with their necessary vaccines and simply don't trust Trumps rushed product. I suppose those eager to consume trumps rushed products would also consume incorrect definitions fed to them.
     
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    All that can be easily created and backdated to suit a narrative. In this case, debunking Malone.
     
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    Hey, guess what? I got word that one of my nieces (wife's side) who has been vaxxed god knows how many times, has gotten covid for the 3rd time. Me and my family, no jabs, no covid. Why? We don't play mind games or take the kill shots.
     
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    15% is still better then 30%.

    About 30 percent of COVID patients develop 'Long COVID,' research finds
     

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