Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Do you want the next Democrat President to have the blanket authority to declassify every document in the vaults?
    Imagine a President Hillary being able to legally to just take anything she wants when she leaves office to sell to the Chinese - cause
    you are arguing that she would have the authority to be able to do just that.
     
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    Prove that everyone else can treat those documents correctly if the president doesn’t tell them they have been declassified.
     
  3. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Good question. Should we now arrest every former president, or did you think Trump is the only president who has documents he took from the WH?
     
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    Stop running and provide the proof that the president has to document every paper he declassifies.
    You can't because its not what the SCOTUS or the Constitution states.
     
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    Is he the only one with documents at his house? I know Obama has an archives in Chicago, but it's managed by NARA. So why is Trump taking documents without conferring with NARA?
     
  6. Nemesis

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    Damn. That's some terrible reasoning. Do you live under a rock and have limited access to Google?

    1. He stole documents that he had and has no right to possess. This is not seriously disputed.
    2. He returned some, but not all, of these documents. This is not seriously disputed unless you're insane.
    3. He did not return all documents. Again, not seriously disputed.
    4. The DOJ applied for and was granted a search and seizure warrant for documents. Not disputed unless you worship an orange man.
    5. The FBI carried out this warrant and retrieved these documents. Undisputed.
    6. The Orange Thief soils himself and lies his buttocks off. Not disputed.
    7. Tell me how, in magical fairytale unicornland, how none of us knowing precisely what these classified documents is relevant.

    You really need a course in anger management and in logic.
     
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    I don't think the case matters. I'm not saying that any indictment is predicated on the handling and classification of these documents; they may not matter. I think the search warrant itself is the big news. My guess is that it was a fishing expedition with the documents being a pretext. All I'm saying that if they are having the attorney general approve a search warrant against Trump, then they are serious about indicting him. And before you say, on what charges, it really doesn't matter.
     
  8. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    You are arguing that President Biden can walk into the vaults, declassify any document he chooses, and hand it to Hunter to sell
    to the Chinese, without any oversight or documentation.
     
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    They already do. lol 'Where the hell have you been.
    Oh, I remember. You're the same guy who claimed the raid was a hoax just to drum up Trump supporters. lol

    You mean like when Hillary and Bill got caught steeling furniture, paintings, and gifts from the White House and had to return them.
     
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    Sorry, I didn't make that claim.
    Or you can either show where I stated he could sell it to the Chinese and give to Hunter or just admit you lied.
    Your choice
     
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    The onus remains with the reader to skip that which does not hold their interest.

    Have a nice day. :)
     
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    I didn’t say it was in the Constitution.

    Its a matter of practicality. Everyone needs to know the classification status of documents.

    How can the rest of the federal government deal with documents correctly if the president doesn’t tell them the documents have been declassified?

    You keep avoiding that question.
     
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    Because you wrote the above, you may be interested in this new thread.
    Trump Warrant Furthers Justice Department’s January 6 Investigation | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics
     
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  14. Daniel Light

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    You claimed the President can unclassify any documents he decides to - without oversight or protocol - once a document
    is unclassified, the President can legally hand it to anyone he wants. You are arguing for Hunter to be able too sell it to the Chinese even
    if you didn't think it through.
     
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    So you have a copy of one of these documents you claim he stole?
    No?
    Nothing like slurping up those CNN headlines with their insider FBI anonymous agent claims and regurgitating it on command.
    Its pretty obvious you have succumb to media and leftist hysteria.
    Not a good look for someone who claims to be an attorney.
    But then again, Its just you. So theres that
     
  16. Nemesis

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    Oh No!!!

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/11/could-trump-argue-declassified-documents/

    Could Trump argue that he declassified certain documents in private, while president? That is not how the system is designed to work.

    "Merely proclaiming a document or group of documents declassified and doing nothing more would not suffice," Bradley Moss, a Washington, D.C.-based lawyer who works on national security cases, told PolitiFact.

    Follow-through is required.

    "He had to identify the specific documents he was declassifying, he needed to memorialize the order in writing for bureaucratic and historical purposes, and he needed to have staff physically modify the classification markings on the documents themselves," Moss said. "Until that was done, the documents, per the security classification procedures, still have to be handled, transmitted and stored as if they were classified."

    Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive at George Washington University, agreed.

    "If the documents are still marked classified 18 months after their removal from the White House," Blanton told PolitiFact, "then Trump was too busy to order them declassified at the time."
     
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    More silly arguments. Is this really your best effort? I hope not.
     
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    NOPE, I provided the ruling from the SCOTUS that clarifies a president can declassify any document at will.
    NEXT

    NOPE, I never made that claim. You did
    NEXT

    NOPE I never made that claim

    And other fake post you want to make while you're here
     
  19. Nemesis

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    *LOL*

    Yes, because if I don't specifically know what the Orange Turd stole it didn't happen! Good argument!
     
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  20. Daniel Light

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    You're claiming there is no need for protocol in declassifying documents.
     
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    Actually he does.

    You may want to read up on this before you post again….
     
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  22. Nemesis

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    Nobody has explained reasonable responses to:

    And, no...screeching "uh, you don't have the documents! You can't tell me what's in the documents!!" isn't a reply. At least in the real world.
     
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    No effort is required to dispel the CNN regurgitations you so frequently rely on as your evidence.
    And coming from the ilk that has made over 20,000 criminal felony claims over 6 years without a single indictment, when did you get the idea that magically you have credibility to make any other claims?

    You haven't seen a single document seized, you haven't seen the affidavit for the warrant, but YOU know what has happened?
    Don't you have some Doctor bills on your desk you need to collect? Because you got nothing here. lol
     
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    Yes, he is. And his claim is debunked. See post #5096.
     
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    You were saying something about reading up? lol
     

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