Moscow Already 'Studying' Top-Secret Records From Trump Raid: Russian Media

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  1. Durandal

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  2. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    There was no "Russia hoax." All you're doing is repeating lies from Trump and Russia, which funnily enough tend to be the same.
     
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    Ah, up to stage 3 I see.....
     
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    I think, whether they have the documents or not, the purpose of this propaganda is to stir up Americans against each other. It is already known these documents have been compromised, so the change of strategy happens either way. Trump may have been preferred over Clinton, but the goal has always been to undermine the US, and what better way to do that than to add fuel to the conflict over Trump. Now if Trump is the nominee, and the other nominee is decidedly worse for Russian interests, they could just as easily be pro-Trump again, but only for the purpose of helping Putin's Russia.
     
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    The usual disinformation from the DNC
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    3. COLIN POWELL AND IVANKA TRUMP!!!!! Both proved bogus comparisons.
    4. The sailor who was jailed for pictures........but not illegalnfor Hillary
    5. Look Trumpnis a Russian Agent.....Durham has already shown Russiagate was about diverting attention from her Emailgate.
     
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    You suppose that Newsweek is one of their propagandists these days?
     
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    Russians might simply be bragging about having compromised the FBI... It isn't beyond the pale given what we saw with folks like Lisa and Pete....
     
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  9. Bluesguy

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    Why? What would he get out it and provide the premise for such an allegation. Seems to me the only people gettings things out of Ukraine and Russia is the Biden influence peddling syndicate and we can throw China and a few other countries.
     
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    Yep….whataboutwhataboutwhatabout……
     
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  11. Bluesguy

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    And equal application and enforcement of the law is not "whataboutism".
     
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    Hahahaha…! You guys aren’t about “equal application”. You’re just desperate to continue covering for The Stain and his corrupt behaviour….
     
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    It is YOU guys who do not believe in equal protection and equal application of the law, that is quite clear. I've been waiting almost SEVEN YEARS for your corrupt and criminal behavior, there has been nothing to defend against because you haven't shown anything. I defend the law and the Constitution as it applies here.

    As Constitutional Prof of Law Dershowitz writes

    "Those who reject this comparison accuse those who make it of “whataboutism.” But treating like cases alike is crucial to the equal protection of the laws. The way in which Berger and Mrs. Clinton were treated is highly relevant in determining whether Mr. Trump is being subjected to a double standard of justice.

    The facts, especially the degrees of culpability, may be different; and if so, that would provide a good answer to the “what about” question. But if the facts are similar and the treatment is different, Americans are entitled to ask whether this constitutes the even application of the law that Mr. Garland promised. The shoe must fit comfortably on the other foot if justice is to be done and seen to be done. There can’t be one rule for Democrats and another for Republicans.

    So the question “What about her emails?” is an appropriate one. Mocking it is no answer. Neither is the cliché “two wrongs do not make a right.” A second wrong doesn’t justify or excuse the first, but unequal treatment of two comparable wrongs should raise concerns about fairness and equality. Unequal treatment of two equal wrongs is a third wrong.


    The “whataboutism” argument applies as well to the manner in which Trump loyalists such as Peter Navarro, Roger Stone and Paul Manafort were arrested. In comparable cases involving similar charges, the defendants weren’t handcuffed, shackled or subjected to restraints generally reserved for those who pose a risk of violence or flight."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/but-he...act-11660482495?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1
     
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    Especially if Jared and Steve have already sold those secrets to the Saudis
     
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    Alan “Best buddy to Epstein” Dershowitz”?
     
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    Remember that Asian lady who was at Mar A Lago, and got caught spy gear on her person?

    How many like her that didn't get caught, I wonder? This case against Trump is mounting.

    It will make Hillary look like a girl scout.
     
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    Dershowitz lost his credibility, long ago.
     
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    Yeah, "Alan 'I kept my underwear on' Dershowitz".

    Hah!

    I got your Dershowitz's double standard argument debunked right here:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...his-is-not-a-veiled-nay-direct-threat.602917/
     
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    Which I have yet seen applied to Trump

    If this had happened here we would have lined up the TWONK and started kicking him/her from Canberra to Timbuktu
     
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    I keep posting this but it smells to high heaven that Steve Mnuchin and Jared Kushner got such massive payouts from the Saudis for seemingly nothing
     
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    Yeah, and especially when the Saudis said that Jared's 'fund' was basically crap, but they gave it to him, anyway?

    Smells like a quid pro quo. The plot thickens.
     
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    More importantly why does he believe they were so unsecured that the Russians could get them
     
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    Better question - why was Clinton NOT prosecuted given that for two years republicans controlled the house the senate and the White House
     
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    The whole Russian media saying they have had them for years is directed at the American people, not Trump or Biden or the Intelligence communities. They want us to shift the focus from the legal arguments of why they were there in the first place to what the Russians really have from Mar A Lago.
     
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    Because the DOJ had already adjudicated it.

    Better question is will Trump be held to the same standard.
     

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