Mar-a-Lago Raid: “I never thought I would say this… The FBI is beyond redemption”.

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    The DOJ and this administration are rogue.. call me a realist, not a terrorist… no one is above the law…. Not even them.
     
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    I'm not calling you a terrorist.

    I'm saying that comments like yours encourage domestic terrorists.
     
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    No it doesn’t.
     
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    His hiring and appointments were Trump's biggest errors. However the mistakes are not the ones Daniel cites but all the opposition that he thought would help mend fences such as his first chief of staff, a never Trumper in drag.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think Trump errored in that he trusted his political advisers when he walked through the door… Betsha he won’t make that mistake in 2024…. He would be foolish to not clean up all the DOJ…. Let the left squeal like a pig… they will be anyway with anything he does.
     
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    I agree. I think Trump has learned his lesson. In fact he learned it in the spring of 2017 (though didn't fully implement it until later) when on a golf course Rush Limbaugh, after listening to Trump's logic, told Trump that they hate you, they will always hate you, and no matter what you do their hate is solid and permanent. (as related by Rush)
     
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    Guy's with hidden lethal skeletons will be easily silenced by these rogue thugs. That's been their shock with Trump. He's far cleaner than anyone anticipated.
     
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    In fact, the FBI has repeatedly been caught red handed encouraging domestic terrorists.
    The FBI should stop doing that.

    When federal officials announced, on Oct. 8, 2020, that they had foiled a plot by militant extremists to kidnap Michigan’s governor, it was quickly hailed as one of the most important domestic terrorism prosecutions in a generation. They didn't mention FBI agent Jayson Chambers by name, but those who had worked the case knew that his role helping to run a central informant had been crucial.

    There was, however, something about Chambers that some colleagues might not have known: 18 months earlier, he’d incorporated a private security firm and had spent much of 2019 trying to drum up business — in part by touting his FBI casework. …

    A continuing BuzzFeed News investigation reveals new information about how Chambers' business, along with an array of issues involving other FBI agents and informants, has bedeviled the prosecution. Those issues may well affect the course of the trial. But beyond the integrity of the case, the problems are serious and widespread enough to call into question tactics the FBI has relied on for decades — and to test the public’s trust in the bureau overall.
    BUZZFEED NEWS, The FBI Investigation Into The Alleged Plot To Kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer Has Gotten Very Complicated, The case seemed like a lock until an informant and one FBI agent were charged with crimes, another was accused of perjury, and a third was found promoting a private security firm. And that wasn’t all. , By Jessica Garrison and Ken Bensinger, December 16, 2021.
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/fbi-michigan-kidnap-whitmer
     
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    Crooked Donnie, POS45 and Espionage Act violator was and still is beyond redemption. Hanson is a RW misguided schill.
     
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    The distance from Nazi Germany to the Stasi is apparently less than a hop skip and jump.

    "After Stalin’s death in 1953 Friedrich Paulus [Field Marshal Stalingrad] was allowed to settle in Dresden in the German Democratic Republic in the East, also there in a villa but under 24-hour Stasi supervision. He met military officers of East and West and was active in a movement against West German rearmament and the Federal Republic of Germany in the West."
    https://countercurrents.org/2019/01/war-and-betrayal-change-and-transformation/
     
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    That I'm not sure about. His post Presidency he's been listening to grifters and getting involved in ridiculous schemes like Truth Social. How are you going to keep Jared and Ivanka out of the White House again? They are family and likely the most damaging of his advisors.
     
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    He's also a billionaire and can fend off the constant legal battles. Non billionaires can get crushed by the constant lawfare.
     
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    That's a good point. It was essentially lawfare that drove Sarah Palin from the Alaska governorship.

    But, if your point is that it's hopeless, I don't accept that.
     
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    Maybe so.... I seen little things that should not have happened, like Comey "sending in" Strzok to talk to Flynn... something that someone "in the know" would not have happened. Sessions recusing himself is another.... Playing nice guy didn't work... When is the last time you've seen someone recuse themselves when they should have... not many... cause ain't nobody going to make them do it...
     
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    IMO, Trump has no chance unless he offers some very compelling positive reasons for ordinary Americans to vote for him.
     
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    Well not hopeless, but your OP seems to assume that once the GOP takes back the House, there is going to be some pushback. Does Kevin McCarthy seem like the type of guy who is going to push for any serious reform or investigation? Mike Pence recently made a speech in which he said defunding the FBI was just as bad as defunding the police. I imagine that is the position of most of the GOP House, even after a tiny infusion of America First that it's likely to get after the election.
     
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    Well who do we know who's advising him now? My guess it's the same crowd that helped wreck his presidency. Someone recommended that he hire Christopher Wray as FBI director, and from that position Wray has become Trump's personal Javert.
     
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    LoL.

    And if it doesn't work out the way you expect - like in 2020 - you'll invent another conspiracy theory to explain the defeat.​
     
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    Exactly... Trump didn't know Wray... who did advise him on that...I'm sure Trump didn't take time out of his presidency to start looking through and evaluating Wray records himself... he was to busy fighting off the dragons...
     
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    Well he shouldn't have to personally research candidates for positions. His staff should have been doing that. The problem was, they were sending him candidates that were intent on sabotaging his Presidency.
     
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    YEAH, NO: Russia Collusion Hoaxer Wants Us to Trust the FBI on Trump Raid. Um, That’s a Hard Pass, Peter Strzok.

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    "The man who was one half of “The Lovers,” disgraced FBI investigator Peter Strzok, Mr. Russia Collusion hoax extraordinaire himself, has implored America to trust the FBI on the Mar-a-Lago raid."

    Can they see which fingers are sticking up?

    "MSNBC’s Morning Joe brings on @PeterStrzok to argue on behalf of the FBI’s integrity: “It’s not that the FBI is targeting any one side or the other. What you see is the FBI going out on a day-in and day-out basis objectively investigating allegations of law."

    Joe - one of the former petting zoo Republicans.

    'That’s right: There’s no tomfoolery at the FBI. No politicking. No political vendettas being carried out. No making stuff up — like Peter Strzok’s Alfa-Bank fraud."

    Totally unbiased -

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    "Joe Scarborough caused a spit-take when he said in passing that “we never believed” the Steele Dossier “from the start.” But the dossier turd was polished by Scarborough’s own guest and Strzok’s on-the-side honey, FBI Attorney Lisa Page. Joe’s bloviation continued and he eventually got to a question, sort of, with the pronouncement, “the FBI makes mistakes, the church makes mistakes, people make mistakes. Should this be any reason for Americans not trust what the FBI and DOJ are doing now in pursuit of protecting classified documents? [sic]”

    They lie until they can't deny their lying, then they claim that they aren't dishonest, just incompetent.

    "FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith literally changed a government document to lie that low-level Trump advisor Carter Page not working as an asset of the CIA in order to accuse him of spying for the Russians, in order to get a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. They destroyed Carter Page’s life, but whatevs. Clinesmith did no time and is back to practicing again."

    83 days.
     
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    So who would recommend Wray to him... Wray is the worst pick he could have chosen...
     
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    These two lovers supposedly had like 50,000 emails between them... when did they have time to fornicate?
     
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