Desperately seeking closure with Liz Cheney

I'm not conservative. I'm centrist. I've had tremendous conservative
influences from my mom and dad.

Conservatives never say 'do the right thing' or say 'do things the right way' because
there are many acceptable ways of doing things.
Sometimes doing the right thing is counterproductive. For example, when doing the
right thing doesn't achieve the goal of racial equality for blacks during the Floyd riots.

Rule of law doesn't guarantee a smooth transition of power in American government.
Democracy in voting (and in the case of presidential voting) and democracy in voting
which preserves the integrity of states (the Electoral College) ensures
smooth transitions of power in US federal government.
In 1857, the rule of law as established by SCOTUS with Dred Scott was the
decision that slaves were property. That rule of law didn't prevent the Civil War.
When congresscritters instituted the pandemic rules for the 2020 election, that rule of
law didn't prevent the Jan. 6 riots on the capitol.

Do I care about Liz Cheney? Yes. It breaks my heart. Conservatives could say
Liz has the right to be as misguided as she wants to be. Conservatives would also say
where Liz crossed into 'non-conservative territory' is when she says her way is the only
acceptable way.

I noticed in Liz's concession speech she likened herself to Abe Lincoln. I assume she
meant Lincoln was great 'cause Lincoln helped to destroy the evil institution of slavery
and helped to commence the punishment of the south because of slavery.
Rather, a conservative would say Lincoln was great because he held the US federal
government together (even though Lincoln's reign as president was probably
the most totalitarian of any president in American history)…A federal government
which presumably allows freedom of speech and thought.

 

You're welcome to her. She pretended to represent us when she didn't. I love how some folks claim that other folks should be represented by folks that they won't chose to represent them. If Democrats love her so much, then have her represent them. Weird thing, they never do.

In the 5 years that Liz Cheney was in office her net worth ballooned by more than 6 times.

LIZ CHENEY’S NET WORTH BALLOONED AS MUCH AS 600 PERCENT DURING HER TIME IN OFFICE. "From $7m to $44m. Of course, this is hardly confined to Cheney."

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I don't feel sorry for her at all. I'm tired of supporting back stabbers, that's all. We want Republicans to drain the swamp. Her husband is a full partner in the firm that represent Hunter Biden. She's warm and cozy in the swamp. Republican voters simply ended the pretense that she represents their interests when clearly she does not. Her sitting on the J6 committee as the voice of the GOP was an ongoing lie. Try it now that GOP voters rejected her by nearly 40 points.

 

Liz will be fine. She's end up running a PAC or end up at a think tank and continue to grow filthy rich with grifter bucks.

Meanwhile I'm just here for the memes

 

Cheney voted 96% for Trump's policies.

But as in any good sect, criticizing the guru turns you into a pariah.

In 10-15 years, when the MAGA movement is no more than a memory, the vast majority of people who participated in it will live in immeasurable shame.

 

But until then...

 

Cheney dared Trump to 'bring it'.



"She lost a primary because she voted against her party. She represents Jackson Hole money men, not Wyomingites. The people of Wyoming are entitled to one representative in DC, not just the Jackson Holians."

"The FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago exposed a criminality and united the country -- against the FBI."

Politico/Morning Consult ran a push poll in favor of the raid 'and still found 47% said the raid was an abuse of power. Only 40% said it was legitimate.'

"The raid gave Trump a boost in the polls and helped him set a record in fund-raising."

Politicians now openly support dumping the FBI.

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/08/were-winning.html#more

 

Liz should have given a three-sentence concession speech -- "The voters have spoken. Democracy is alive and well. God bless the USA".

 

Some darn good memes here folks, keep em coming…..

 

I'm not sure I'm understanding your point. When exactly did Liz Cheney cross into "non-conservative territory"?

 

Hum. Seems like the ruling class in America and Liz Cheney in particular are becoming more and more increasingly rich. I think that's a trend in most socialist (the Biden Administration is far more radical than socialist) countries.

 

For example, Liz crossed into non conservative territory when she became highly authoritarian, er, became totalitarian.

 

Which votes did she cast that weren't what the majority of her constituents would have wanted?

 

The sticking point is Liz didn't vote for democracy even though she crows about democracy. Liz is the opposite of believing in democracy since she's authoritarian. If Liz thinks she's conservative and believes in democracy, she's either delusional or a liar.

 

The people of Wyoming didn't want Trump investigated for Jan.6.

 

Sincere question - when did she say that 'her way' was the ONLY acceptable way? I would suggest that she believed that it was the only way for 'her'. That she had to be true to herself and in that which she believes.

 

When she said the Jan. 6 riot was a threat to our democracy when in actuality the 2020 pandemic rules are a threat to our democracy.

Instead of determining if the 2020 election was free and fair (democratic), congresscritters like Cheney have concentrated on prosecuting and punishing those who thought the 2020 election wasn't free and fair. And no one has proven or wanted to prove the 2020 was free or fair.

 

Not really the same thing. She didn't come out and say that her way was the only way. She shared her priorities and was honest about it, knowing it could cost her her seat. And it did. Not sure many others would be as honest and true to themselves facing the same threat to their power.

 

She said rioting against a possibly undemocratic election like the 2020 was a threat to democracy...This is authoritarianism at its worst. The people haven't spoken. The politicians have spoken and the people at the capitol have been thrown into jail to rot.

 

Ds: 'You Rs only elect people because of the R'
Rs response: 'You may have a point...'
*Rs start kicking out the D infiltrators*
Ds: 'ur a cult!'

 

I suppose you are forgetting that, in case after case, no fraud was found. By Trump's own people no less! So, without proof, to continue to stoke the fires in the bellies of those who wanted their man elected was dangerous and a threat to democracy.

 

I totally agree the with small box (which is Trump JR's media platform post) in the meme where Liz is working at the Mac Donald's and handing food to the president.
IMO, Liz thinks she's like Abe Lincoln 'cause Lincoln suspended the first amendment during his presidency and facilitated the carpetbaggers.

 

Quote, please? I doubt, very much, that she postulated that the election was possibly undemocratic. To claim such thing without a single piece of verified evidence is irresponsible, don’t you think?

 

In other words, when she failed to bow to the false idol?

 

I posted the 2020 was possibly undemocratic. The rioters on Jan.6 thought the 2020 was undemocratic. Not one congresscritter has investigated the freeness and fairness of the 2020 pandemic rules election. Instead congresscritters like Liz are investigating, prosecuting and leaving to rot those who thought the 2020 wasn't democratic.

 

In other words, when Liz lied or was delusional when she said she cares about democracy.