FOX news is going to town with this Illegals in the Bus thing

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You do seem stunned.

    I'm not the only one who was struck by the Florida governor's Castro stunt.


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    Huge mistake’: DeSantis’ migrant transports could undercut support in South Florida
    The move by DeSantis dominated the radio and television airwaves in South Florida — where large swaths of Hispanic voters live.
    DeSantis’ decision to transport mostly Venezuelan migrants to Martha’s Vineyard earlier this week could hurt the Republican governor in November with a key constituency that the GOP has sought to win over.

    The move by DeSantis dominated the radio and television airwaves in South Florida — where large swaths of Hispanic voters live. One Spanish radio host loudly denounced the move and even compared DeSantis’ actions to that of deceased Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, who relocated Cubans in the early ‘60s...

    Charlie Crist, who is challenging DeSantis, on Saturday rushed out a new digital ad targeting Hispanics and the Venezuelan community as part of a six-figure buy pounding DeSantis over his attention-getting move.

    “From a Miami perspective, it’s a huge mistake,” said state Sen. Annette Taddeo, a Democrat challenging incumbent Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar (R-Fla.). “All these Republicans — including my opponent — historically talk about socialism and communism and that we are standing up to these horrible dictators. The migrants are fleeing exactly what Republicans say they are fighting against.”

    Florida Republicans in recent years have made it a priority to court Venezuelan Americans, many of whom fled their home country in the past decade amid the political and economic turmoil under Nicolás Maduro and his predecessor Hugo Chávez. It’s a story that has parallels to Cuban Americans — a crucial bloc of support for the GOP — who left their country to escape communism.

    Democrat Charlie Crist, who is challenging DeSantis, on Saturday rushed out a new digital ad targeting Hispanics and the Venezuelan community as part of a six-figure buy pounding DeSantis over his attention-getting move.


    Florida Republicans in recent years have made it a priority to court Venezuelan Americans, many of whom fled their home country in the past decade amid the political and economic turmoil under Nicolás Maduro and his predecessor Hugo Chávez. It’s a story that has parallels to Cuban Americans — a crucial bloc of support for the GOP — who left their country to escape communism.

    Democrat Charlie Crist, who is challenging DeSantis, on Saturday rushed out a new digital ad targeting Hispanics and the Venezuelan community as part of a six-figure buy pounding DeSantis over his attention-getting move.

    Many of the migrants are presumed to be seeking asylum after fleeing Venezuela. Some of the migrants told media outlets and immigration activists that they were misled about where they were going...

    While DeSantis staunchly defended his actions in press conferences this week, some Florida Republicans have been cautious in their remarks. [Sen. Rick] Scott (R-Fla.) himself sidestepped a question about whether DeSantis should have transported the migrants...

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    Too late, Fidel.


     
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  2. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Because all the refugees Fidel DeSantis weaponized and rejected are being cared for by them?

    The practice of Christian charity is an odd thing for xenophobes to lash out about.

     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Serious question, how do illegal immigrants cost taxpayers money?

    You are correct that all states get a say…which is why it is the way it is today. Thats called democracy.

    Again, please explain what finds these illegals get ? Why are they costing so much to the states ? They cannot receive federal funds, and I dont know any states that allow illegals to collect and state finds.

    Im truly curious here when you say they are costing taxpayers money. What government money gets spent on them ?
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The practice of Christian charity is an odd thing for “compassionate” liberals to lash out about.
     
  5. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And then you were stunned when MV pulled their own Castro stunt and shipped them off to Cape Cod. Weren’t you?

    No, because when rich white liberals do it, “that’s different.”
     
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    there going after women for abortion is killing them in the polls, this is the only thing they got

    70% of Americans are pro-choice, the dems need to run on that hard

    the old farts that want to ban the right to choose need to be voted out
     
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    The facilities many are housed in are government funded as well as all of the amenities that must be provided for them such as food, clothing, etc (tax payer)
    Public hospital districts provide uncompensated health care for illegal immigrants (tax payer)
    Public schools educate illegal immigrant children (tax payer)

    The list could go on. Basically any government funded public service that provides services for American citizens that also provides services for illegal immigrants is costing tax payers money. These services are funded through taxes paid by American citizens designed to accommodate and serve American citizens, not illegal immigrants.

    Now some will argue why does it matter because those services are funded regardless so how is it hurting anything if illegal immigrants can use them? Well simple, lets take welfare and EBT for example. These are funded via tax payers. If more people require the use of EBT then that requires more money that comes from tax payers. If an illegal immigrant or even a poor American citizen without adequate medical insurance requires medical care and can't pay for it then who pays for that? Government programs that are funded by tax payers such as Medicaid. Hospitals also often receive federal funding to help offset the costs of treating the poor who can't afford to pay. That federal funding comes from tax payers.

    Basically the more people (and not to be cruel but mostly poor people) that we introduce into the system the more money is required to provide services for them. Medical services alone for the uninsured/can't afford to pay cost American taxpayers 40+ Billion dollars a year. Not sure if that calculation already includes illegal immigrants or not but either way that's a lot of money we need to spend helping care for the poor we already have in our country whether legally or illegally. We don't need to keep taking on Latin America's poor as well we can't afford this.
     
  8. Natty Bumpo

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    You may not be familiar with the Christian corporal works of mercy: Give drink to the thirsty, Feed the hungry, Shelter the homeless, etc.

    Religious groups, volunteers, and authorities in Martha's Vineyard, Washington D.C. and New York are scrambling to take care of the newly arrived families, tricked into making the journey with no warnings to the communities to allow preparations to receive them, but the cynical use of humans as political weapons is nothing new:

    In 1962, white southern segregationists tricked hundreds of Black Americans into moving north, promising them they would find jobs and housing in liberal states.

    "To embarrass Northern liberals and humiliate Black people, southern White Citizens Councils started their so-called 'Reverse Freedom Rides,' giving Black people one-way tickets to northern cities with false promises of jobs, housing, and better lives."...


    "Republican Governors Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott [are] pulling from a playbook of many of their Southern predecessors that used the bodies, hopes, and dreams of black and brown people as a political stunt.

    And this is why we teach history."


    https://www.newsweek.com/migrant-buses-compared-1962-reverse-freedom-rides-black-families-1743575

     
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    You nailed it!

    Biden administration resumes after-dark migrant flights to airport outside NYC.

    And the lying fake news media that operates as the propaganda organ for the DNC, never said squat!

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    That depends if they were granted asylum or refugee status or withholding of deportation/removal. They can get a boat load of taxpayer benefits...
     
  11. Seth Bullock

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    Nice try. You’re comparing apples and oranges.

    The black people you tried to use were American citizens.

    What Abbott and DeSantis are addressing is virtually uncontrolled immigration, and tens of thousands of immigrants being dumped in their states by a federal government that deliberately created this crisis.

    And why? Because liberals in the federal government want it this way. And where do liberals in the federal government get their power? From liberal bastions like NYC, Chicago, and Martha’s Vineyard.

    And I am laughing at them now. Their abject hypocrisy is on national display. I always knew these elite liberals were nothing but a bunch of closet racists and lying hypocrites, and now they’re proving it.
     
  12. Natty Bumpo

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    In 1962, the unwanted Black Americans were human beings on American soil as citizens.

    In 2022, the migrants shamelessly being used as political weapons are human beings legally on American soil under their right to seek asylum.

    The heirs to the cruel 1962 scheme show no concern for the well-being of these families as they also lie to them, and conspire to prevent caring people from being prepared to provide the help they need:


    The inhumanity existed before the 1962 racist practice was revived. Have these hyper-partisan authoritarians no decency?

    ... Dozens of migrants apprehended at the southwest border are being taken to hospitals on a daily basis, and the doctors and nurses charged with their care are worried that government agencies are endangering the lives of migrants.

    Doctors point out that, in many cases, when patients are recently apprehended asylum-seekers and only in custody because of their immigration status, they are often victimized via extreme security measures...

    The news outlet refers to a case in Tucson, Arizona, where Rom Rahimian, a medical student working at
    Banner-University Medical Center, was trying to care for a 20-year-old pregnant migrant from Guatemala who had been found in the desert and was experiencing premature labor. Intimidating border agents refused to leave the room while she received care, which included medical exams, consultations with doctors and ultrasounds. The agents also pressured hospital staff to discharge the woman early so that she could be sent to an immigration detention center. “It was a race against the clock to see if we can get her into any other situation”...

    Physicians for Human Rights (PHR), told The Times, “Doctors, who have a moral and ethical obligation and duty to care for patients, are actively being prevented from carrying out the practice of medicine as they’ve been trained to practice it.” PHR released a report detailing multiple cases where the health of migrants was jeopardized by increased immigration security.
     
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    If you could get the Democrat lead states to agree with this, I would be willing to agree. Right now, even when they get 50 illegals, they flip out.
     
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    I am sure your community is quite nice. Perhaps, you should be able to house an equal amount in your city instead of just proposing that all illegals be sent to Republican states (this is the Democrat agenda by the way).
     
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    The Constitution is specific. Close the borders to illegal immigration. That some congresscritters (and the Biden Administration) refuse to close the borders is unconstitutional.
     
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    Dems and sanctuary cities flip out when 50 illegals are sent to their cities because:
    (1) By reporting illegals sent to sanctuary cites (even if it's only 50), the corrupt media must acknowledge the border crisis in the US.
    (2) Sanctuary cities flipping out over 50 illegals sent to their town shows the hypocrisy of the sanctuary cities.
     
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    Sure thing. Bring 'em on. The democratic-run communities where these hapless people ended up have done what real Americans have always done: rolled up their sleeves and gotten to work. (And not that it matters much, but I'm not a Democrat.)

    When did I propose any such thing? How is this a Democrat agenda? Got proof, or was that just hyperbole?
     
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    Then, lets do this and see how those Democrat leaders and communities react.
     
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    everything is all white once again, Right cupcakes in MV
     
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    You have said this a few times. If you read the Bible..its clear that God promotes borders and assimilation as a blueprint for a healthy nation. Jesus is God. So I can only assume that if the nation is worthy, Jesus would promote borders and assimilation. I could see him crossing borders to save those of other nations....like he did in Samaria.
     
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    In bold, you made me laugh! The fact that you had to post this, well done! DeSantis is getting his neo fascist bona fidies and fund raising off this.
     
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    it's illegal.

    DeSantis will be under criminal indictment during the 2024 primaries. He keeps stealing Trump's ideas.
     
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    LOLOLOL

    50 migrants here and there to other cities is an 'attack' but 10's of thousands to border states isn't?

    You couldn't say something more ridiculous if you tried.
     
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    Nothing needs to be voted on. The DHS Secretary works for the president and a simple change in policy by the president can change how the border is conducted.
     
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    It's not illegal to ship legal immigrants to another state. Biden has been doing it.
     

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