No mention of the MAGA teen murdered for disagreeing with 41 yo?

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Being white is not something exclusive to not having a hate crime charge. We have some whites who hate other whites, who happen to be Jews. They are called Nazis or Neo-Nazis. And if evidence points out as the primary reason for the crime, then a hate crime may be charged. Hispanics, as an ethnicity, can be white, black, or even Asian. And some people again hate Hispanics. Some may be white, black or even Asian. But that again is not the reason for the hate crime being charged.

    the problem I have with some members on this forum with this situation is trying to make this out to more than what it really is. It is simply a vehicular homicide with intoxication as the cause. What he said under oath as a confession should be taken at face value. He admits he did and that is how the prosecution is going to hammer him if he decides to plead not guilty and go to trial.
     
  2. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    He should be charged with terrorism.
     
  3. WhoDatPhan78

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    If it is really true that he targeted the person because of his political affiliation, I will call it terrorism.
     
  4. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    He said that's why he killed the dude. He literally confessed.
     
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    I'm aware of what he said.
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure you do, which supports the probability that Leftists believe it's ok to kill Right wingers.
     
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    You really need to get out of your extremist mindset.

    I’ve already said many times he will be conceived and probably spend the rest of his life in prison.

    Saying l am ok with what he did, if just some mantra you need to repeat to justify what you feel inside.
     
  8. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    You refuse to call it the terrorism that it really is and you called me an extremist.

    You prove my point.
     
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    I guess the Left has never used any deaths as avatars for cheap political talking points:
     
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    I will call it terrorism if the facts support it.

    All we have is a statement from a drunk criminal. So many people are certain he is telling the truth. They might end up looking foolish.

    No other facts from this case support that it was politically motivated.
     
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    Is that what the bar is for "Terrorism" these days .. Political Assassination - killing for political reasons ?

    So -- this makes Biden - Trump - Obama ... big time Terrorists then right ?
     
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    This DUI guy is going to prison too, as he should. As for Charlottesville, these supremacist groups are affiliated with each other and supported Trump, but of course that does not mean all his supporters were supremacists. The protest in Charlottesville was called "unite the right" for a reason. Its an uneasy association, much like the left and Antifa. Neither side asked the fringe to associate with them.
     
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    This murder was committed for political reasons.
     
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    So you want to argue as to whether or not an estimate says 2000 or 500? Yeesh. You are trying to claim that you have seen every second of that rally? Didnt it last for like 6 hours? My goodness, you have been brainwashed. I am sure that you have seen every second of left-wing propaganda put out on that rally, and undoubtedly you have not seen one second of just regular people protesting to keep the statue because that does not fit the narrative that the left wing wants to push on this occurrence. Yet you are sitting there convinced that you have magically seen every second of every interaction between at least 500 people( even if we take your number from your head and ignore the singular link provided that says thousands). For that matter, for the life of me, I cannot imagine why anyone would even try to watch every second of a 6 hour gathering. Are you obsessed or something? Perhaps you have gotten an anti-Charlotteseville tattoo across your chest?

    It does not matter. Even 500 is enough that you cannot summarily declare everyone there in favor of a statue as bad people. It is a nonsensical declaration. We have covered all of this already. At this point, it just feels like you are wanting to bicker over literally nothing. Is there a larger point that you are trying to make right now?
     
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    Anyone marching with a crowd chanting “Jews will not replace us” is a bad person.
     
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    I have long since made my point and you have had ample opportunity to attempt to rebut that point.

    I see no reason to just keep repeating the same discussion over and over. Its time to move on.
     
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    Understood - Why does this make the act "Terrorism" --- are you saying that Obama-Trump-Biden are terrorists on this basis .. and should be jailed ?
     
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    Your point is that there were good people at Charlottesville, but you haven’t come close to making it.
     
  21. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Did they murder United States citizens for political reasons?
     
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    Being a US citizen has nothing to do with the definition of Terrorism ? ..

    What are you claiming ? ... that the Terrorist bombing in France by Al Qaeda was not terrorism because no US citizens killed ?
     
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    Enough already. Let the reader decide for themselves.
     
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    So do you believe that there were good people marching in Charlottesville that day?
     
  25. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    We're not discussing other countries
     

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