NRA Furious Over Gun Shop Sales Tracking by credit card companies

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Because they think anti-abortion types might get their names and harass them?
     
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    They're mostly religious types and constitute a small portion of women.

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    Abortions were readily available for most women when they wanted them early in their pregnancy, and less available later in their pregnancy.
     
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    What age kids are being shown this Holocaust film?
     
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    I was expressing that I think you used a poor analogy.

    What age group are we talking about here?
     
  6. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's true they've been using merchant codes for many years, but it's not likely that previous merchant codes held the potential to violate constitutional protections.

    This merchant code has only one purpose--to record gun purchases and identify the individuals making them. That is a very slippery slope.
     
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    Senior high school—with preparation and a personal option to not watch. The video is from the World at War series.
     
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    If some potential problem bothers you then pay in cash.
     
  9. Eleuthera

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    I'm not talking about me, PLF. I'm talking about legal principles and common sense, things you seem to have no concern for.
     
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    My advice was common sense advice, and there is no legal issues here. You rail against private corporations, and I don't. That's all. I'll still pay for my guns with a debit card.
     
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    why should a credit card company get to violate the constitution?
    disagree the only reason for this is to keep tabs gun owners.
    The NRA compromises too much to be a rights organization they are just following the lead of real guns rights organizations.

    That sure about this gun sales organization conspiracy crap sounds like BS to me.
     
  12. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, you see no legal issues with this matter, and none with the rank censorship by social media outlets.

    You have no clue about what the Constitution says, but I already knew that.
     
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    Did people are why do you get about that violating rights that are not enumerated in the Constitution.

    We're talking about a right that is stated in the Constitution.

    The government that came out of its own promise is a problem don't you think or do you want to corrupt government as long as you get your way?
     
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    I believe in private corporations right to run their business without government strong arming them, and you believe the opposite.

    Can you at least TRY to explain your take on the Constitution in regards to this issue.

    I ask because clearly you did not know the Constitution restricts the CONGRESS from creating laws to restrict freedom of speech. Private companies can make their own rules.

    As for a credit card company using merchant codes........show me where the Constitution prohibits it.
     
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    Yes, and you have no objections whatsoever when corporations urinate on constitutional rights.
     
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    Again, can you at least TRY to explain your take on the Constitution in regards to this issue. Read my post above as opposed to just quoting a part of it
     
  17. Polydectes

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    no it's never a good idea. The most deadly phrase you will ever hear in your life is " I am from the government and I am here to help."
    because the only reason they would want to do that is so they could know where to go to take them away. That's the only reason for this has nothing to do with crime.
    so we have to sacrifice our right to privacy because the government is incompetent?

    I'm not buying it.
    they don't give a **** about that. They actually went out of their way to cause it.
    because the only reason for tracking is to take them away. The only reason for tracking is to make certain they fall into the wrong hands.

    Governments do two things very well steal things and murder people. That's why the second amendment was created.
     
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    Surveillance is the first step. Why on Earth do they need to surveil other than two for the restrict that's the only point to any of this. The government can't do it they're forbidden to so they're pulling some corrupt trickery to go ahead and do it anyway.
     
  19. Polydectes

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    that's not what they would do it for. If they give a **** about that they would enforce laws.

    no. Criminals don't typically buy guns legally. And now that they're being tracked they'll be less likely to so all it does is force this deeper underground because it's not meant to have anything at all to do with crime that's just the way they trick you into supporting it.

    no it can't. If I want to do crime with a gun I just don't register it. Or buy one that's not registered.

    Think about it if you were going to murder somebody would you register your gun that you were going to commit the murder with?
     
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    It is a recent development, lobbied for by anti gun organizations, put into play by an international organization to circumvent American Congress and meddle in the private liberty of American citizens.
     
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    In what language are you writing ?
     
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    There is no constitutional violation here.
    The rest of your post is meaningless.
     
  23. Polydectes

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    Are you suffering from temporary illiteracy that's a bad one right when people make a good point.
     
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    Yeah any law on guns is a constitutional violation the Constitution says shall not be infringed laws are infringement that's the only point of them.
     
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    Its not doing anything to my liberty, but I am sorry if it somehow takes away yours.
     
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