Hillary Compares Trump to Hitler, His Supporters to Nazis

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    I literally just said that. His being elected doesn't change the fact that he didn't really respect the unwritten rule, which then had to be written because of that. Now, we can debate whether we should have that rule.(I am going to be unapologetically authoritarian from now on, as it makes no sense to pretend to be left or right wing, when I am neither.). But since my nation has the rule, I'm going to gladly call FDR a hypocrite and he's not some beacon in the 21st century for us to idealize, going by the social cultural movement of tearing down statues here in America.
     
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    FDR is the only person to have served for four consecutive terms
    Is what you posted. It's not that important to me, I was just trying to clarify.
     
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    No it was not but like most of your ilk you seem to Never be wrong
     
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    No need to make it up.
     
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    What's controversial?
    FDR only put himself on the ballot and the people rather overwhelmingly put him in charge 4 times in a row, all knowing very well about that unofficial 2 term limit!

    While Trump put himself on the ballot twice so far. And even though he lost the 2nd time, he got his supporters so worked up that loads genially believe that he won / Biden stole his presidency. And Trump went on so fanatic on that on jan the 6th where he yelled that they had to fight for the country or lose it and had a high end lawyer yell to go and have a trial by combat that the crowed went off and attempted a coup. And while he watched how his crowed were fighting their way in to the Capitol, he pressured his collogues under attack of his mob to make him their dictator, against the will of the people.

    Total understatement to label that as "controversial". It's very nazi like.
    And that's not even mentioning his mob got a special straight arm salute.



    I mean. That's just so nazi like. No honest movie producer could make a blockbuster out of what Trump did, before Trump did this. It would been labelled the dumbest fiction ever. But here we are.
     
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    Hillary exaggerates. Trump is just a failed Hitler.
    Mr. Failure should be his name.

    Today's real Hitler is comrade Pooteen. :(
     
  7. AmericanNationalist

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    It's controversial in that the rule was respected until him. We'll ignore the Trump thing, because the bottom line becomes: President Angry Yeller(Biden) is in power. See, that's the funny thing. Why the focus on 1/6. It turns people off, and reminds them that yes, this bufoonish president IS president.

    He and the Democrats would be better served trying to defend their record, or at least showing real concrete signs of making steps of trying to improve the situation. And I don't mean passing a tax and spend bill and lying about it.

    No one cares, and no one will care. The failed leadership is unacceptable and people are going to make adjustments via the ballot box on election night. And when the left faces the difficulty of a conservative government, just remember that they wasted all that time reminding us of something both obvious and unnecessary.

    For those who think they've tried to defend our secular state, they sure are quite religious about 1/6 and the 2020 election results.
     
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    Read Mein Kampf then try The Psychopathic God. They're being followed like manuals

    Hillary's just saying what all of us know.

    The year 2020 was 1933. 1/6 was meant to be our Reichstag Fire

    Hitler never said, "Lets kill all the Jews and everyone who isn't us and then kill ourselves in a suicidal war with the whole world". In 1938 there were still people calling him "The Greatest German". Hell, there were still lots of JEWS who supported him until the Kristallnacht.
    Even in 1941 he never said he was killing anyone. He was telling everybody all the Jews were being taken off to be "resettled" until the end of the war.


     
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    Interesting. So one third of one country 'likes' him, and that makes it a cult? How about the one third of all Western nations who're indoctrinated Progresssives? No issue there for you, I'm guessing.

    Just like Christian Fundamentalists, Progressives see anything not 'of god' (aka their own ideology) as the devil. If you're looking for a cult, that's where you'll find it.
     
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    would I look as stupid as the people that claim the salute for trump is a nazi salute?
     
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    I tried reading Mein Kampf but I kept falling asleep! and I have not voted for Trump
     
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    Actually you are right about the Reichstag Fire reference, but in the reverse. Democrats had won the election, and we saw a poisonous climate that's been fostered in the House, leading to the subpoena of cell phone documents of congresspersons and creating overall a very toxic environment inside of capitol hill. The fencing meant to show a sign of political force as well as cowardice from the public wit at large.

    For a while there with the 1/6 committee, I worried about what they could come up with but thankfully they lack the numbers on the Senate side to push anything, and they will soon lose the House. But the new Speaker has to undo a lot of Pelosi's damage to the institution.
     
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    I do think you need to be reminded that the topic is that Trump and his supporters are compared with nazi's!
    So ignoring "the Trump thing" in this thread is unacceptable. Such are the forum rules.
     
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    The forum rules only apply to the original post of the OP. I'm not under any obligation to address a point I feel unnecessary. The only point to HRC's remarks, and I addressed what's really occuring at large in political opinions is the gasp of a dying political system.

    "Who we are" failed to govern, just as they've failed to govern leading up to this moment in the first place and in their last ditch of grasping straws have fallen back to this playbook.

    No one cares though. The reason Liz Cheney lost by over 30 for example, is that We The People are finally starting to demand a government out of these losers. If they lack talent and ability in office, we vote them out and replace them, regardless of party hat.
     
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    Because there's selfies, videos, and now convictions.
    Hard to be wrong with that kind of evidence.

    What is concerning is the UnAmericans who ignore the attempt at halting the peaceful transfer of power over a lie of a fraud election.
     
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    There are not enough roll eye emojis to express how I feel about this
     
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    I don’t like the woman but damn is she accurate
     
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    Accurate? Yea, she's why we have Godwin's Law.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...zis-and-you-ve-lost-the-argument-8209712.html

    The author wasn't speaking of Hillary in the article, but it still applies.
     
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    Dude just started a thread comparing progressives to Nazis and now he whining about someone else calling MAGA nazis.

    Whatever.

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    MAGA are not Nazis.
    Nazis are Nazis

    MAGA is the new Karen Party.
     
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    Most Germans didn't read it either, or they wouldn't have voted for him.

    Good for you.
     
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    Putin is much more Stalin. He says that himself.
     
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    Um, no. Try again. Or is your fallacious conclusion, the reason you departed from your normal habit-- when you are quoting some Right wing radical's delusional screed, about Progressive agendas to, often purposely, destroy the country (when it is not due to Leftists simply being evil to their cores)-- of using an extended quote? You left so much of that rather short article, off the table, that your OP is missing some crucial facts, relating to your personal opinion, on the matter.

    Not to worry-- I got your back. Here are the next couple of paragraphs, from the story you linked:


    "You saw the rally in Ohio the other night," she continued, according to a New York Post report. "Trump is there ranting and raving for more than an hour, and you have these rows of young men with their arms raised. I thought, 'What is going on?'"

    While
    there are known reports of attendees at Trump's Youngstown, Ohio rally for GOP senate candidate J.D. Vance SIG HEILING, as the Post notes, there were attendees with their index fingers pointed to the ceiling. Some have taken it as a reference to a Qanon conspiracy theory. Others questioned if it may have been ostentation about being "No. 1."

    [End]

    So, the Post makes clear, all of those with arms raised, were not sig heiling; some were only pointing to the ceiling, in reference to an esoteric, Qanon, conspiracy theory (I wonder if that is the one about Trump being a new Messiah)-- much, much, better.
    That is one bunch of winners, in your Party, XXJefferson#51.



    No, that is not the slightest bit correct.
    The Post had only noted that "others questioned if IT may have been ostentation about being number 1." And even this "IT," is only in reference to those "attendees with their index fingers pointed to the ceiling," not to those "known reports of attendees...sig heiling."

    So, there are three ideas, in the 2nd paragraph I'd quoted, from your article. Let's take them in the order they are given:

    1) There were known reports of attendees sig heiling. You can put a fork in that item, because it is done-- the Post does not contradict that;

    2) it adds the statement that, while some were giving the Nazi salute, others were only pointing to the ceiling, in an apparent reference to a Qanon conspiracy.

    3) Finally, it mentions that others have "questioned," if they might have only been flashing the we're number one, sign. IOW, attempts by those trying to "spin" the event, as not full of crazies. But it is not too hard to distinguish the finger, saying "number one!"

    Certainly, that was not what occasioned the reports, which
    The Post seems to accept as credible, of sig heiling. While there were, no doubt, some at the rally, with their fingers indicating that "we're the best," that gesture is not generally made with the hand held still, pointing straight up; the hand is usually wagged forward and back, almost as if pretending to shoot a gun into the air. As this signal is part of a current Qanon theory, and many of Trump's followers ascribe to other Qanon theories, what looked to observers like pointing at the ceiling, most likely was, in most cases, pointing at the ceiling.

    But the part about the Hitler saluting, is in no doubt, whatsoever, just so you're clear on that. The Post reiterates those reports. Therefore, Hillary is not making any false, or biased judgements (this time)-- she is echoing the Post's reporting.
     
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    The left is running out of gas. Their hope apparently rests in trying to troll the right into a violent rebellion they can use to justify martial law and avoid an election.
     
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    Ya know, I don't blame anybody over in the USA for not really seeing the obvious bleeding similarity. You are way too close to the coal face to be objective and call it for what it is. From Down Here, a gazillion miles away, the similarity between Make America Great Again and the rise of Nazi Germany is so abundantly evident, and it is equally clear that as happened in Germany, as soon as the snake's head is removed, the nasty goes away.
     
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