Jane Elliott says white people know black people are in pain

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well it's not about Obama, it's about people evading criticism.

    I think that is one of the reasons Trump became so popular among Republicans. He seemed like the antidote to this.
     
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    white people did not create slavery, slavery exists in the bible, that was a middle eastern religion, it's been around for a long long time

    but regardless, Americans fought to end slavery, no one alive today was a slave or a slave owner, and even when we had slave owners, they were the 1%, not your average white person
     
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    That's not something to be proud of.
     
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    there were a lot of white people upset with us having our first black President, but you're right, it was a minority of Americans

    it did not help that the right attacked him for not being American even after he showed his birth certificate, that the right swore they would make him a one-term President right off the bat
     
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    not sure what you mean, why would America not be proud of ending slavery?

    many Americans gave their lives to end that horrible time in our history, they served our country proud, they did good

    had they not, the Confederates would be controlling this country now
     
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    Other country's ended slavery WITHOUT a war, we had a significant amount of people that wanted to keep slavery so much that they were willing to fight and die to keep it. I don't consider that a good thing.
     
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    White people did not create slavery, but white people accelerated it with a brutal form of Black slavery by Europeans in Latin America, the U.S. and Europe. Period.

    True, but all white people benefit from the effects of slavery and inequalities. Everyone should be treated equally.
     
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    just like foreign outsourcing today or buying stuff made by people overseas making slave wages and horrible working conditions, yes, some people wanted cheap stuff

    that you can blame on modern day Americans, black or white

    white people today are not responsible for slavery, that was people long dead
     
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  9. Steve N

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    Yeah, she threw a guilt trip on kids who didn’t do anything to anyone. There is no legit reason to make kids feel guilty of things that occurred and ended long before they were born.
     
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    More deflection.
     
  11. Steve N

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    Do you have a point? Everyone is treated equally, including the people who get scholarships and jobs based on their color…wait, there really are inequitable, isn’t there? But not in the direction you’d like them to go. I’ve said this many times before and the left never has a response; tv commercials are dominated by blacks, posters for products in Walmart, CVS, Target and Walgreens are dominated by blacks. Facebook ads are dominated by blacks. Even the ads I get on Candy Crush are dominated by blacks when they feature humans and not animations.

    The above FACTS can’t be explained by population ratios and statistics, discrimination is at work and the left isn’t going bonkers over it. Why?
     
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    I have an idea that I’m sure you’re willing to support 100%.

    How about if we go to all the schools where the majorities are Indians and educate them on how brutal their ancestors were, how they wiped out other tribes and kept the survivors as slaves? You in?

    I doubt you’ll respond to this and if you do it will avoid actually giving me a rational response. You’ve been programmed that blacks can only be victims and they’re only victimized by whites. You’ve swallowed the pill of progressive social justice and it was heavily laced with wokeism. Only a wokester would try to make people feel guilty for something they didn’t do, who weren’t alive when it happened and, like me, didn’t have ancestors in this country when it did. You’ve taken bleeding heart liberalism to a whole new level.
     
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    Yeah, teaching folks how to be racist in school is time much better spent than teaching them math, English, History, Science, and all that other useless stuff.
     
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    What he’s done throughout this entire thread is essentially say whites, being the superior culture, dominated an inferior one. He’s literally making an argument that white supremacy is legit.
     
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    I'm in.
     
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    Yes, white people did that. Yes. That is a fact. White supremacy exists. However, NO race is superior to the other. None. None.

    Everyone has flaws.
     
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    I like when the wokesters waste math and science time on racism instruction. Their kids won't get the best jobs and ours will.
     
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    Then stop arguing that whites are superior because only a superior culture can dominate another culture.

    About this white supremacy, you are aware the FBI can’t find any, aren’t you?
     
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    Alexander Dumas the Author of the Three Musketeers was part Black as was his father who actually did serve in Royal musketeer guard and whose stories to his son formed the basis for much of Dumas' books.
    While racism, which was largely a more or less mythical response by slave holders to the growing strength of the abolitionist movement, was a hendrance to black people in the US it was much less so in Europe, where the primary victim de jure were Jews. And note while racism could be a hendrance there were more than a few notable successes. See the 1776 project for more complete info.
     
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    Couldn't begin to count the number of times we hear blame others for how they feel, and insist somebody should fix their life.
    That belief justifies every kind of hate, abuse, crime and ugly behavior that's plaguing America today. Saw a story this morning, where a "Wawa" brand convenience store was destroyed by abut 100 teens who came in at once and basically ransacked it. Big crowd outside watching. Not any other description, so I went looking for the video. Most renditions of it have been truncated to limit the violence- but not all. I'm thinking, I need to count the white people involved here, get some idea of motive. I watched it all, and counted. I still have 10 fingers out.... The only white person on the video was an employee.

    So, the motive must just be black people in pain- emotional pain, which of course brings up the need and right to cause others (anybody) pain so they will be in pain too, and understand they will have no peace until they fix your pain. Makes as much sense as discussing politics with the imaginary friends of a paranoid schizophrenic.

    The Wawa chain may do what many others have done- close the stores in areas where the residents think and act that way. Be their best move.
     
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    You have to wonder what the point is of pounding into our heads how just one specific group of people were mistreated by another specific group of people when there is not a thing we can do about it.

    Earlier in this thread I asked him how he would feel if we went into schools that are Indian majority and teach them how their ancestors slaughtered and enslaved other Indians and he didn't answer.

    My guess as to why they're do it is this:

    - The bleeding hearts of liberals always need something to bleed about
    - They're protecting their voting block
    - When certain people commit crimes as horrific rates, they sympathy and lack of punishment they get from liberals allows them to commit even more crimes and get away with it. It was in the name of social justice that they rioted, robbed, looted, burned, assaulted and murdered people two years ago and the left was sympathetic the entire time. Because of that, the same folks, knowing they'll get away with it, are probably waiting for another reason to riot, rob, loot, burn, assault and murder people.
    - Some people just do what they're told to do. Today liberals are told certain people can be nothing more than oppressed victims unless the bleeding hearts help them.
     
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    And find it 'eloquent'. So basically you admire her.
     
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    Ridiculous. We treat our loved ones differently because they ARE our loved ones. It's because they're our loved ones that we can be paternalistic and protective with them. Being paternalistic and protective with random strangers is completely inappropriate unless they're small children, disabled, or very elderly.

    Respect means minding your own business. Anything more than that shows a lack of respect.
     
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    Nope, sorry.
     
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    Practically every civilisation that has ever existed has employed slavery at some point.

    We also used to club each other to death, and rape was far more common.

    It's futile to present-wash the past. There are no saints.
     
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